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Old 04-15-2009, 04:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Of Taxes, Tea, and Timidity

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"Today’s staged tea parties strongly suggest that the Right Wing Noise Machine has hardly been put to rest. The most worrisome part is the way in which everyday nonpartisan folks, incensed by government-subsidized executive bonuses in the finance sector, are joining in the fray.

As I write, President Obama is on the airwaves being his usual rational self (which is good) and talking about how his budget and tax plans actually include relief for middle-income payers, not to mention how his stimulus package is already improving economic prospects on Main Street.

I wish, however, that he would beard the no-tax monsters (Club for Growth, Cato, Limbaugh, Fox News, etc.) in their various dens in a much more frontal and devastating way. He could point out, for example:

* That so much money is lost to offshore tax havens for the super-rich that eliminating them, according to tax expert David Cay Johnston, would allow all of us non-super-rich payers to enjoy a 12 percent reduction in our Federal income taxes.

* That achieving tax fairness will be a serious matter under his Administration-that he will re-introduce progressivity by adding a range of new brackets for the very wealthy (currently the merely well-off-those with household incomes of $437,000-are taxed at the same marginal rate as Warren Buffett, which makes no sense at all); that he will collect all and not just some of the $43 billion that goes missing each year due to the Bush tax cuts for those above the $250,000 level; and that he will institute a progressive estate tax that will bring in $40 to $60 billion each year while impacting only 1 out every 200 estates. He should borrow the good ideas for re-instituting progressivity that were released this week by the Institute for Policy Studies.

* That raucous claims to the effect that the wealthy already pay the lion’s share of taxes obscure the more significant reality that recent decades have been so incredibly good to those folks-that the top decile’s share of national pre-tax income shot up from an already-outrageous 37.5 percent in 2001 to an appalling 41% in 2006.

* That he fully appreciates the fact that fully half of the effect of his stimulus package is directly undercut by the need for states and municipalities to raise taxes just to maintain basic services-and that he will insist that Congress take this into account in the next stimulus round.

* That he understands and opposes the regressive nature of FICA taxes and will address that problem by insisting that the current FICA cap that hugely benefits high-income people will be lifted in a way that both ensures more fairness and instantly solves the question of future funding of Medicare and Social Security.

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., was right to observe that “taxes are the price we pay for civilization.” Religiously speaking, taxes-and tax fairness-are also the measure our commitment to lifting the yoke of the downtrodden and letting the oppressed go free. They are, in short, a measure of basic justice, from which it follows that today’s tax demagogues are agents of oppression who must be named as such."
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You should really just sit back an enjoy your serving of the partisan nastiness your party perfected and subjected the nation to for the last 8 years. It is only fair and the donks are all about fair, aren't they?
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You know, you're allowed to add to your own threads. You don't need to start a new thread with the same topic every time you read something new on it.
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Yes we are which is why I mailed teabags to my Republican fiends in Congress - no party left behind.
That's actually funny.
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Thanks, I'm hoping it will become a genuine grass roots movement.
Sending t bags or good jokes about the GOP?
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Yes we are which is why I mailed teabags to my Republican fiends in Congress - no party left behind.
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Now that you mention it......perhaps a good joke about a GOP to a GOP du Jour on some classy stationary with a tea bag attached.

If just one person does it they may think he's really sick, and if two people, two people do it, in harmony, then three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people mailing teabags and GOP jokes to a GOP du Jour - they may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, fifty people a day mailing tea bags to a GOP. That my friend is a movement. (I heard Alice's Restaurant on the radio yesterday - are you old enough to remember that) (Also heard My Back Pages - we'll meet on edges soon said I proud neath heated brow - but I was so much older than I'm younger than that now)

Am I off topic?
No, no. You're on a roll! Just keep going!
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I've been doing Bob Dylan and My Back Pages all day. I have a lousy voice - my work friends are leaving in droves I think it was sitting on the potty singing that did it. Always heard you sing better in the bathroom. Think I'll give myself an early jump - have a lovely evening!
I'd like to know where you heard I sing better anywhere, let alone the can.

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I heard it through the grapevine.......

and it's all over the bathroom walls.
Then we can now establish as fact that bathroom walls and grape vines do sometimes lie.
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Dixie describes the teabag movement very well. Many people have mailed teabags to the White House. It is indeed a movement in its infancy. The MSM has decided to virtually ignore it and Obama claims he doesnt even know it's happening, but it is a movement and it will grow as taxes and cap and trade and deficits of 3.6 trillion dollars are placed on the lives of our grandchildren.

The tea parties are not a statement by Republicans, but by anyone democrat or republican who see's the insanity of the Obama administration and it's trillion dollar deficits.

To be honest its Freedom and Democracy to be able to have these rallies ,but what is it when Free Americans and the military are called right wing extremists and dangerous people for excercising their right of protest as the DHS has described Americans.

I dont know what the DHS calls it but it sure isnt American.
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