Is Libertarianism a lie?

[somdrenter]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Unless you can get a large number of people to do it, it will just be pissing in the wind.

And voting for the same two parties over and over and over again expecting something different is not?

[Libertarian]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

You tell me.

Why didn't a conservative win the Republican nomination, if we like conservatives so much?

I don't have the data to support this, but the answer is possibly attributed to there having been 3 or more candidates in the race during the Republican primaries, with McCain being among the least conservative. The two more conservative candidates, Romney and Huckabee, more or less split the votes among the conservative GOP voters (according to my theory; I am just shooting from the hip without data), while Guliani's chances were hurt because of his personal/marital issues, and McCain snuck in as the wildcard underdog.

[Libertarian]

Originally Posted by Jigglepuff

Voting third party across the board (local,state,federal) wil probably send the strongest message to Washington.

An era of "3rd Party" would force the two parties to get back to their core ethics.

If a Libertarian becomes elected...do you guys honestly think that legalizing drugs will be their highest priority for legislation? I think they would put that kind of stuff wayyyy on the back burner.

I predict we will see Libertarian county commissionners elected in MD in 2010, possibly even in Charles, St. M., or Calvert. This is because voters can vote for more than one, and are thus more likely to use one of the votes for a Libertarian.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

I don't have the data to support this, but the answer is possibly attributed to there having been 3 or more candidates in the race during the Republican primaries, with McCain being among the least conservative. The two more conservative candidates, Romney and Huckabee, more or less split the votes among the conservative GOP voters (according to my theory; I am just shooting from the hip without data), while Guliani's chances were hurt because of his personal/marital issues, and McCain snuck in as the wildcard underdog.

No, no, no. See, McCain won. That's it. He is, OBVIOUSLY, exactly what Americans wanted or, duh, he would not have won.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

Let's establish this Larry, I don't want McCain. I don't want Paul.

But I would like an answer. Unless of course you don't have one.

You just don't get it, do you? You, and others voted for McCain, therefore, that must be who you wanted. How could it be any other way? Are you suggesting people voted for whom they did NOT want?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

You just don't get it, do you? You, and others voted for McCain, therefore, that must be who you wanted. How could it be any other way? Are you suggesting people voted for whom they did NOT want?

Again, unless you're voting for yourself, you're voting for someone with whom you disagree on at least a few issues.

So, you can vote for someone with whom you have some disagreements that CAN win, or vote for someone with whom you have some disagreements who CAN'T win. Which one makes more sense? Which one aids putting someone you want EVEN LESS in office?

Personally, I voted for McCain because I believed he could win, and would be better than Obama. I did not vote for myself, Snoopy, Donald Duck, or Ron Paul for a myriad of reasons, but mostly because none of those people could win, so why waste my vote?

[ImnoMensa]

Originally Posted by Beaver-Cleaver

Who did you vote for in the Republican Primary?

That's a good question.

I vote in Maryland, and by the time it got here it was already inthe bag for Mccain. I voted for fred Thompson anyway, even though I had seen his lackadaisical campaign, I still liked his message.

One of the problems as I see it is that the primary system we have sucks.

New Hampshire by their law always gets first shot. New Hampshire Yankee's do not represent me. Their views are not mine. Why should they have a great influence over the candidate I get?

Primary day should be the same day in every state. It would stop all the month's long campaigning bull#### and would allow voters to get behind one man early on.

This system being dragged out month after month just plain sucks.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by ImnoMensa

That's a good question.

I vote in Maryland, and by the time it got here it was already inthe bag for Mccain. I voted for fred Thompson anyway, even though I had seen his lackadaisical campaign, I still liked his message.

One of the problems as I see it is that the primary system we have sucks.

New Hampshire by their law always gets first shot. New Hampshire Yankee's do not represent me. Their views are not mine. Why should they have a great influence over the candidate I get?

Primary day should be the same day in every state. It would stop all the month's long campaigning bull#### and would allow voters to get behind one man early on.

This system being dragged out month after month just plain sucks.

Thanks for typing my answer, virtually word for word, as I wouild have typed it.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

Again, unless you're voting for yourself, you're voting for someone with whom you disagree on at least a few issues.

You know, I find disagreement just fine and dandy. However, I do not like it when my argument is simply ignored and then you act as if I never said anything.

Time and again I have said that my differences with McCain were MANY; Immigration, taxes, free speech, global warming, energy independence, his views on nation building, socialism.

Time and again I have said that had McCain voted against TARP, I would have believed the best in him and set aside the worst and voted for him. He proved the worst of him by voting for that terrible and tragic piece of junk.

That was the last straw. He's far too much aligned with many things I see as wrong with this nation. In my view.

Good Lord, y'all act like I voted for Paul because McCain and I don't root for the same football team.

What I find sad is that not a one of you actually supports McCain and many of you liked Paul much more on many issues, but BECAUSE he is on 'your' team, you voted for him.

How the hell do you ever expect the GOP to serve YOUR interests if all that really matters to you is serving the GOP's interests? Why would they respond to you if you're just gonna go along anyway?

If McCain was close enough, we just disagree. He's part of the problem. Not part of the solution.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

I don't have the data to support this, but the answer is possibly attributed to there having been 3 or more candidates in the race during the Republican primaries, with McCain being among the least conservative. The two more conservative candidates, Romney and Huckabee, more or less split the votes among the conservative GOP voters (according to my theory; I am just shooting from the hip without data), while Guliani's chances were hurt because of his personal/marital issues, and McCain snuck in as the wildcard underdog.

Without looking at the numbers to verify, I'll go for that as a quick answer while I consider.

And Larry, I am talking specifically about the primary and have said so numerous times. So please make your sarcastic non-answers based on that and stop switching over the general because it makes your non-case stronger.

I did not vote for McCain in the primary. I've only said that ten million times. But you can continue to pretend I did, if you like.