Is Obama being a pig?

[Matthew]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Why? It was the same crap with a different label on it.

Actually Larry. as you have pointed out in prior threads, both parties are pigs. However the ultimate dumbasses are ourselves as we keep electing/ reelecting these basket cases and ignoring the promise of the smaller, less funded parties. I am no Gus Hall fan , or Lyndon La Rouche Devotee nor do I look upon such wackos as Bob Avakian as leaders, but I cannot believe that in this land that there is no one that fits what we need. The problem as always is $$ as well as defining the word"need".

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by lewis7lewis

No what you should believe is when people that are alot smarter than you who have done studies for years and have proof you should listen to them.

there seem to be an equal number of people smarter than us that are not convinced that man is the cause.
Who you going to believe.

by the way, I doubt many people think global warming is a total farce, one only has to look around to see it, however the cause is certainly something to be suspect of.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Matthew

Actually Larry. as you have pointed out in prior threads, both parties are pigs. However the ultimate dumbasses are ourselves as we keep electing/ reelecting these basket cases and ignoring the promise of the smaller, less funded parties. I am no Gus Hall fan , or Lyndon La Rouche Devotee nor do I look upon such wackos as Bob Avakian as leaders, but I cannot believe that in this land that there is no one that fits what we need. The problem as always is $$ as well as defining the word"need".

If people voted for who they pretty much supported, we will get what we need.

As for money, the internet has evened the playing field. If some folks can start to catch on, build a support base and if those supporters are willing to put some money where their mouths are, say $25 a quarter, a 1,000 people means $100,000 a year for someone to compete.

10,000 means $1,000,000

100,000 means $10,000,000

1,000,000 means $100,000,000 and that is serious dollars.

62,000,000 voted for McCain.

Candidates can make a mark outside the party structure.

I mean, Bush cost every man, woman and child in this country about $7,000 just in over the top gas prices his last four years. Obama has cost us all something like $40,000 in debt, each on top of what Bush added.

We, the people, as you say, are at fault and we, the people, can do something about it; start supporting those who actually represent us.

[Matthew]

I heartedly agree in we the people.....but we the people have become lackadaisical in our responsibilities and are content to leave our decisions to others who make them for us. We do not take the time neither to read nor educate ourselves as to the people behind the facades who say they are "looking out for our interests".
Most of us believe we are a democracy but fail to realize that the founding fathers looked to Republican Rome as a model for our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. We modeled our senate after the Roman Republic, even our army for a short time was labelled a "legion" with all the corresponding ranks. This republic was set up with the idea that the "ruling" class owned land and therefore had the obligation to protect theirs and others who owned land. Somewhere sometime, Democracy slipped in and threw a monkey wrench into the system. I believe that came about when the "commoners' began owning land and decided they were entitled to the same rights too.
The problem now is that we refuse to believe that we live in a class driven society. We believe that we are all "equal" which would have been an abhorrent tenet to most of the socalled Founding Fathers. We look to those who are "better than ourselves" to lead us, while conveniently fooling ourselves that these same people have our interests at heart. Politics as you and I have opined upon is a slimy road and sadly paved with the hubris of good intentions. No wonder, we the people are confused. However, again, as you have proved, we the people need to get off our collective butts, and take the time to educate ourselves as to whom really represents us. That is a big bite to take and I am not sure we are willing to take the sunglasses off and seeing things for what they truly are.

[PantherWoman]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Congress passes another pure partisan spending bill.

The economy is still going down.

The government is buying up car companies in partnership with the unions.

Global warming is proving a total farce.

Health care reform is going on the back burner.

Americans are still dying overseas.

North Korea is launching missiles.

Iran is building bombs.

Obama is making pals with dictators of his liking.

And the staff is pissing away buckets of cash on PR stunts.


Wanna get away? Swine flu!



How appropriate.

You get what you vote for!

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by lewis7lewis

You have got to be the biggest jerkoff I ever read you must be kidding that
global warming is not true when all of the scientific data is proving that your wrong without a doubt. Look ass#### the evidence is clear on this. Have you not seen any time lasped pitures and for instance like MONTANA'S NATIONAL GLACIER PARK in 10 to 15 years there wont be any glaciers so dont
spout off about something you know nothing about.Its like the line in JAWS
you wont believe it till it swims up and bites you in the ass.

Wow. Are you this pleasant all the time?

[ylexot (Premo)]

Originally Posted by lewis7lewis

No what you should believe is when people that are alot smarter than you who have done studies for years and have proof you should listen to them.

Show me these studies.

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by Bann

Wow. Are you this pleasant all the time?

Naw, just a member of that 'tolerant' party!



Gotta love these retards, what a joke!

[toppick08 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by lewis7lewis

You have got to be the biggest jerkoff I ever read you must be kidding that
global warming is not true when all of the scientific data is proving that your wrong without a doubt. Look ass#### the evidence is clear on this. Have you not seen any time lasped pitures and for instance like MONTANA'S NATIONAL GLACIER PARK in 10 to 15 years there wont be any glaciers so dont
spout off about something you know nothing about.Its like the line in JAWS
you wont believe it till it swims up and bites you in the ass.

No., that would be me...

[edinsomd]

Originally Posted by lewis7lewis

...they would rather listen to RUSH,OREILLY,HANNITY and BECK who have screwed up more facts then I
care to mention.

Really? Name one, then.