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Old 05-01-2009, 02:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Obama's Phony Churchill Quote

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I mentioned this yesterday as part of the coverage for the 100 Days presser, but the reaction from Irish Central to Barack Obama’s use of Winston Churchill as a paragon of opposition to torture is too priceless to pass up. Niall O’Dowd reaches new heights of eloquence in his disgust:
President Barack Obama’s grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama, must be turning over in his grave.

Winston Churchill — the man who ordered his torture during the Kenyan war of independence — was being praised by his grandson for not using torture. What a laugh.

Obama cited Britain as a country that never resorted to torture during war during his prime-time press conference on Tuesday night.

“London was being bombed to smithereens [and] had 200 or so detainees. And Churchill said, ‘We don’t torture,’” Obama said. “Churchill understood, you start taking shortcuts, and over time, that corrodes what’s best in a people.”

Excuse me, Mr. President: Churchill did condone torture and he did use torture — and advocated using poison gas and concentration camps. And he was quite proud to do so, writing about it frequently as a means to an end.

I don’t know whose Kool-Aid Obama was drinking, but it must have been supplied by the British Embassy in bucketfuls.
I wonder when the Churchill bust will come back to the White House.

Update: And it turns out that the quote was phony anyway, via Jonah Goldberg:
While it’s nice to hear the President invoke Sir Winston, the quotation is unattributed and almost certainly incorrect. While Churchill did express such sentiments with regard to prison inmates, he said no such thing about prisoners of war, enemy combatants or terrorists, who were in fact tortured by British interrogators during World War II.

The word “torture” appears 156 times in my digital transcript of Churchill’s 15 million published words (books, articles, speeches, papers) and 35 million words about him–but not once in the subject context. Similarly, key phrases like “character of a country” or “erodes the character” do not track. …

Churchill spoke frequently about torture, mostly enemy murders of civilians. His daughter once told me, “He would have done anything to win the war, and I daresay he had to do some pretty rough things–but they didn’t unman him.” But if Churchill is on record about “enhanced interrogation,” his words have yet to surface.
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Somebody better fix the teleprompter or give it a history lesson.
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Somebody better fix the teleprompter or give it a history lesson.
It doesn't matter anymore.
This story will not appear on ABC, CBS or NBC.
Most people will never know their president lies to them every time he opens his mouth and just makes up historical precedent for his opinions.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter anymore.
This story will not appear on ABC, CBS or NBC.
Most people will never know their president lies to them every time he opens his mouth and just makes up historical precedent for his opinions.
Unfortunately way too true...
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Fuk Obama his clock is runnin down!!!
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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with all the petitions going around, I suggest that someone with better communication skills that I have, come up with a new one.
This would not be a petition to unseat somebody, or to make the prove they are actually citizens of the country, this petition would not harm anyone regardless of the race, religion, sexual orientation or legal status.

The petition I suggest creating would be one to help forward obama's vision of a transparent government.

I suggest a petition that would force all politicians to speak without the aid of a teleprompter or and ear piece.
its time we stop hearing the thoughts of the speach writers behind the man/woman speaking,
Its time we hear the orator speaking his own words in his own way so that we as a society can achieve a better understanding of exactly what or who is saying.
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I suggest a petition that would force all politicians to speak without the aid of a teleprompter or and ear piece.
its time we stop hearing the thoughts of the speach writers behind the man/woman speaking,
Its time we hear the orator speaking his own words in his own way so that we as a society can achieve a better understanding of exactly what or who is saying.
Do you really want to hear him stuttering and groaning, Uh, Hmmm, Ohh, and Ah for and hour and a half?

On top of all his lies, the fact that he can't speak w/o assistance must be a shock even to his lame supporters.
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Do you really want to hear him stuttering and groaning, Uh, Hmmm, Ohh, and Ah for and hour and a half?

On top of all his lies, the fact that he can't speak w/o assistance must be a shock even to his lame supporters.
do you really want his idiot flock to continue thinking he is the best speaker since JFK, or do you want him to be seen for what he really is. A total F-ing idiot that cant put a simple thought together on his own.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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do you really want his idiot flock to continue thinking he is the best speaker since JFK, or do you want him to be seen for what he really is. A total F-ing idiot that cant put a simple thought together on his own.
Judge a person by their deeds not their words.

In this case, we're screwed by both. Outright lies by the President that LSM lap up and repeat. And a move by the President to rapidly destroy capitalism.

Who is going to support the entitlement class when we're all employed by the government?
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Anyone who admires Churchill admires the downfall of Western civilization.

His image is great. His results over the years, not so much.
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Obama=His self-flattery and oratory perpetuates the myth, that he is actually competent.
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