Just Stamp am L on Jeb's Forehead ....

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

And you totally blew off my point, which was ENTERTAINMENT.

Most people who loathe Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc, have never even heard or read them. They watch entertainment "news" and have been told to hate, so they do. If Scarlett Johansson loves Obama and hates all Republicans, they will follow her lead.

You give people more credit for intelligence than they deserve. Just because you are interested in news and politics doesn't mean everyone is. If that were the case, more people would watch news shows than Desperate Housewives, right?

However Celebrity Apprentice has an average of 8 million viewers, while all cable news shows combined for the whole of prime time get around 6 million viewers. (Desperate Housewives, btw, has 13 million viewers.)

Again, if you are right, how did Bush win? Twice? How did the GOP run the House for 12 years, six consecutive congressional election cycles? How did the GOP run the Senate for a few terms?

Are you saying GOP wins, like Dems wins, are nothing more than the herd being swayed one way or another? If so, aren't you then agreeing to my point that the media bias is irrelevant because it works both ways?

I am gleefully awaiting your response.

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

American Idle.


I don't argue that there is no media bias; clearly, there is. However, the information is out there, on both sides, on all sides, for anyone who bothers.

Too many are watching AI .... and other mindless drivel ....

enchanted by the NewSpeak


maybe we should elect the next president Via AI ...

or Survivor .... keep voting runners off the Island, until the president is left

the 1st 10 sec or so are the prominent ones ... Listen to the Presidents Intro

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

No.

People don't bother because they don't care. They want to be entertained, not informed. THAT is a fact, and I give you these forums as a perfect example if you need one beyond the obvious.

<Insert Video down asking people why and who the voted for>

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

However Celebrity Apprentice has an average of 8 million viewers, while all cable news shows combined for the whole of prime time get around 6 million viewers. (Desperate Housewives, btw, has 13 million viewers.)

the Whores of Wisteria Lane ....

mum watches that crap .... I rail againist it constantly,

why would you watch a bunch of kniving whores you would not let in the front door

but you let the house through the TV .... this from someone who refused to watch Sex and the City , because of the content

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Again, if you are right, how did Bush win? Twice? How did the GOP run the House for 12 years, six consecutive congressional election cycles? How did the GOP run the Senate for a few terms?

That was then, this is now. And I know you're not suggesting that Bush or the GOP Congress is conservative.

Right?

I suspect the only reason Gore got as many votes as he did was because he was Clinton's VP and because of the media push, not because of any appeal on his part. It's not like he was ever embraced by anyone except the enviro-nutties and the editors of Rolling Stone. If he hadn't been a sitting VP, he wouldn't have made it through the primaries.

John Kerry also had no appeal. He was snobbish elitist with a rich wife who was also a snobbish elitist. It's hard to listen to a guy with five mansions talk about helping the poor. And I think a lot of people wanted to keep Bush because we were in the middle of the wars and things were going pretty well in this country at that time.

I was surprised that Howard Dean blanked out the way he did - I thought he'd be their nominee. I think, at the end of the day, he was too angry for most Americans. They hadn't truly embraced their inner Kos at that point.

But four years and a hard media push later, we are definitely turning Left and I think McCain as the GOP nominee, Obama as President, Pelosi as Speaker and Reid as SML prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

That was then, this is now. And I know you're not suggesting that Bush or the GOP Congress is conservative.

Right?

I suspect the only reason Gore got as many votes as he did was because he was Clinton's VP and because of the media push, not because of any appeal on his part. It's not like he was ever embraced by anyone except the enviro-nutties and the editors of Rolling Stone. If he hadn't been a sitting VP, he wouldn't have made it through the primaries.

John Kerry also had no appeal. He was snobbish elitist with a rich wife who was also a snobbish elitist. It's hard to listen to a guy with five mansions talk about helping the poor. And I think a lot of people wanted to keep Bush because we were in the middle of the wars and things were going pretty well in this country at that time.

I was surprised that Howard Dean blanked out the way he did - I thought he'd be their nominee. I think, at the end of the day, he was too angry for most Americans. They hadn't truly embraced their inner Kos at that point.

But four years and a hard media push later, we are definitely turning Left and I think McCain as the GOP nominee, Obama as President, Pelosi as Speaker and Reid as SML prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

That sounds like a fair enough analysis of where we are right now yet I still say we didn't get here because the GOP was too conservative, as the left wing media is desperately trying to convince their herd.

However, the question you took exception with me on is whether or not media bias is irrelevant based on my contention that both sides have fair enough access across the land.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

However, the question you took exception with me on is whether or not media bias is irrelevant based on my contention that both sides have fair enough access across the land.

No, because you're not taking Hollywood and the entertainment industry into consideration. THEY are the kingmakers, not Hannity or Chris Matthews. And conservatives are most definitely not well-represented in the entertainment fields. And THAT is where most Americans get their political information from and form their opinions.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

as the left wing media is desperately trying to convince their herd.

PS, they aren't *trying* to convince them - they ARE convincing them.

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

However, the question you took exception with me on is whether or not media bias is irrelevant based on my contention that both sides have fair enough access across the land.

how can you say that, you admitted most Subjects get their news from AI, and the LSM paints any conservative as a Loon, Racist , Homophobe ...


look at Ron Paul, Sure shutting down the FBI is a bit Radical ( even for me ) but a lot of his other Ideas had Merit ... but the RINOs in the party laughed and pointed fingers ( which did not help ) and add the KO's and CWs of the world and it all gets lost in the background as noise

sure there about 6 million of us who get it ....

but it is like trying to stand againist a fire hose that is the LSM when all we have is a garden hose on at a 1/2 trickle ....

[BoyGenius]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

You need to grammar check the title. Then, we'll tell everyone how smart we are.

Little Lenny Spelling & Grammar Queen must have missed that one.