Americans do not have the Intellectual capacity to

[EmptyTimCup]

Americans do not have the Intellectual capacity to Revolt against the corporate occupation

[bcp (Premo)]

Ill have to listen to it later, right now Im headed off with some friends to do some shooting at the range.
Jim is supposed to bring donuts.

[SamSpade]

Right. Americans are such doofuses when it comes to consumption and economic wisdom.

Because your average citizen of - geez, name any country on the planet - is so much better at such things.

I can't stand people who claim to love America but clearly despise Americans.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

Right. Americans are such doofuses when it comes to consumption and economic wisdom.

Because your average citizen of - geez, name any country on the planet - is so much better at such things.

I can't stand people who claim to love America but clearly despise Americans.

People dont seem to realize that the American Consumption of products that they hate, is what drives the American dream of success that they love.
take away the first part, and the second part is soon to fail.. just look at the American car manufacturers. People slowed down in their purchasing of the cars, the companies failed, when the companies fail, the once thriving model of the world city quickly becomes a third world hell hole.
just cant have one without the other.

[SamSpade]

It's not that. It's the silly depiction of Americans as an eternally unsatiated id, always consuming and oblivious to the world around them.

As if the citizens of every OTHER nation on the planet are fully informed, cognizant and involved in such worldly matters, rather than tossing back a few at the pub, watching footie on the telly or sipping wine while painting a still life. People are people everywhere.

It's just that I hear liberals slam Americans and American living so often, but they bristle at the mention that they hate Americans. They fume and claim they really LOVE them.

I guess I don't want their version of "love". I'm sure a vulture pecking at my entrails "loves" me also, but it's not MY interest they have at heart.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

take away the first part, and the second part is soon to fail.. just look at the American car manufacturers. People slowed down in their purchasing of the cars, the companies failed, when the companies fail, the once thriving model of the world city quickly becomes a third world hell hole.
just cant have one without the other.

Oh, that is sooooo not true!!!

Large corporations are, in fact, incredible in many ways both for the good they serve and the downsides directly associated with their size. Giants can do mighty feats. Giants can destroy much when they are stumbling around.

If GM built a business that MUST sell 9,000,000 units a year and have done it in such a way that any contraction would be catastrophic, that is a poor business model because the economy is not a constant. There WILL be business but it will go up and down and a good company MUST be able to deal with this.

GM, just as an example, has all of it's profits and assets gobbled up thus they have no way to weather the current storm. A company MUST have cash and assets to be flexible. They've been sucked dry.

[bcp (Premo)]

GMs problem as I see it is that it did not react years ago when the foriegn auto market started stripping sales away from them.
Their main F-up was that the kept producing vehicles based on numbers from the 70s when the actual number might have been half.
Over the long run they would have reduced the same number of jobs, but instead of it being a flood of unemployed into the system, it would have been a trickle that might not have brought on the problems that they now have.

What needs to be done is to change the way stock profit is compiled for a company.
Right now, if GM has a million dollars in parts unassembled in a warehouse, that is a liability to them. However if they take those parts and put a car together, even though that car is now sitting unsold on a lot, it becomes an asset. So, to push market value of the stock up, the reasonable thing to do is to overproduce and let the dealers worry about moving the stock.