When the left gets Limbaugh off the air...

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Nonno

The left doesn't really want LimpBag to go, where else would they get to see 300 lbs. of loose, drug soaked elephant fat juggling up and down behind a mike. Best to get rid of that fat cheeked drama queen Beck. How can you guys stand to watch and listen to that hamster?

Oh, golly gee -we put up with you, don't we?

[SamSpade]

As much as the extreme left would like to silence Rush, most of those closer to the middle would see that as a mistake, because it would tend to validate what conservatives have been saying for years. It doesn't do them much good to claim to stand for freedom and then blatantly silence opposition.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

Not in probably 10 years, but I understand generally what he is about. I can understand where some of the left doesn't like him, but how would it benefit them to have him gone?

You've heard of the fairness doctrine? Ok, so, we've established the desire based on what you've heard with your own ears; Limbaugh's hilarious slaughtering of their sacred cows and his unabashed pro GOP stance coupled with his constant illustrating of just how biased the news people, in general are; the people who claim to be objective journalists.

The fairness doctrine establishes the mechanism to, if not silent, then to limit him.

The benefit, from a leftists standpoint, is that, with him gone, there is one less HUGE voice that exposes to the audience the hypocrisy, farce and outright ugliness of much of what the left is all about.

Frankly, and sadly, Limbaugh gets much of this stuff correctly and illustrates it very well; his an enemy of the left. They'd do better with him gone.

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by Nonno

The left doesn't really want LimpBag to go, where else would they get to see 300 lbs. of loose, drug soaked elephant fat juggling up and down behind a mike.

Mikey Moore. A person who wouldn't recognize a 'fact' when it biotch-slapped him upside the head.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Nonno

The left doesn't really want LimpBag to go, where else would they get to see 300 lbs. of loose, drug soaked elephant fat juggling up and down behind a mike. Best to get rid of that fat cheeked drama queen Beck. How can you guys stand to watch and listen to that hamster?

You have no idea how sinister you sound, do you? Yes, the left-wing nuts; where only the beautiful people are allowed.




Aren't you just lovely?

[ginwoman]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

You've heard of the fairness doctrine? Ok, so, we've established the desire based on what you've heard with your own ears; Limbaugh's hilarious slaughtering of their sacred cows and his unabashed pro GOP stance coupled with his constant illustrating of just how biased the news people, in general are; the people who claim to be objective journalists.

The fairness doctrine establishes the mechanism to, if not silent, then to limit him.

The benefit, from a leftists standpoint, is that, with him gone, there is one less HUGE voice that exposes to the audience the hypocrisy, farce and outright ugliness of much of what the left is all about.

Frankly, and sadly, Limbaugh gets much of this stuff correctly and illustrates it very well; his an enemy of the left. They'd do better with him gone.

exactly

[camily]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...who is next?

Vrai.

[Tilted]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

You've heard of the fairness doctrine? Ok, so, we've established the desire based on what you've heard with your own ears; Limbaugh's hilarious slaughtering of their sacred cows and his unabashed pro GOP stance coupled with his constant illustrating of just how biased the news people, in general are; the people who claim to be objective journalists.

The fairness doctrine establishes the mechanism to, if not silent, then to limit him.

The benefit, from a leftists standpoint, is that, with him gone, there is one less HUGE voice that exposes to the audience the hypocrisy, farce and outright ugliness of much of what the left is all about.

Frankly, and sadly, Limbaugh gets much of this stuff correctly and illustrates it very well; his an enemy of the left. They'd do better with him gone.

As I indicated, it has been a long time since I heard Limbaugh, so I may have little clue what he does now. But, generally speaking, I don't think people like Limbaugh influence many people to change their stances on issues. I think their effect on the political landscape is marginal. It doesn't much matter if he is correct, or even if he makes his argument well. Those that agree with him, agree with him - and those that don't, don't like him and aren't going to give credit to his position, no matter how well it is supported.

The reality is that we allow our friends to influence our opinions, not our enemies. That little piece of wisdom seems lost on a lot of people. If you want to influence people's actions and decisions, first you need them to like you. You have to make your argument in a non-insulting way. You have to connect with the person, and you have to address the issue from a perspective whereby your interests don't seem completely opposed to theirs. I'm not suggesting that people shouldn't make their arguments forcefully, with conviction, and with loyalty to what they believe - just that the focus has to be to articulate what's right - not to demonstrate to people that they are wrong or stupid. As good as the latter may feel, and as justified as it may be, it is not an effective way to move the hearts of people. It's all about what your goal is.

The bottom line is that the people that tend to disagree with Rush, tend not to like him - and I suspect he doesn't do much to engender their affection. That's fine, he isn't trying to influence people. That's not his path to prosperity. He is trying to impassion people, that's his path. When people listen to Rush, they do so with the posit that he has an agenda. If that posit has him having a different agenda than their own, he isn't going to be able to influence them much.

The people that influence people (meaning people who might originally have differing views), are the people who are liked by those people. People who don't seem to have a contrarian agenda - very often they do, but the listener doesn't perceive it.

If you want to influence people, they have to like you. If you want to impassion people, they can like you or hate you. I think Rush impassions people, but doesn't influence them all that much. He does what he does. But from a political strategy standpoint - you want to influence those with whom you disagree and impassion those with whom you agree. That's how you win political battles. Rush's goal isn't to win political battles. He impassions his own side and the opposition. I think he is close to a net wash.

Again, I'm not saying that people should care whether or not someone likes them - but if their goal is to influence someone, they should understand how important it is that the someone likes them - or at least isn't offended by them.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

As I indicated, it has been a long time since I heard Limbaugh, so I may have little clue what he does now. But, generally speaking, I don't think people like Limbaugh influence many people to change their stances on issues. I think their effect on the political landscape is marginal.

I disagree and I think the left would disagree as well. However, I have no way to quantify this, so, it's gonna just have to be my opinion.

[Tilted]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

I disagree and I think the left would disagree as well. However, I have no way to quantify this, so, it's gonna just have to be my opinion.

I obviously don't have any meaningful way of quantifying my opinion either.

And, as I said, I haven't listened to Rush in a long time - I really can't be sure of how he operates anymore. What I said is based on a caricature, based on what I remember. If he still fits that caricature, then I believe what I said is appropriate to him - if not, then it wouldn't necessarily be.

As for what the left thinks - I wouldn't be at all surprised if the mass would like to see him gone. Maybe, that's a good strategic goal for them, or maybe its not (and is just a feel good goal). At the very least, I guess silencing him would feel empowering - and that could have benefits.