opinions please..

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by hvp05

Which is the socialists' dream, correct?

The dangerous part is that there is an intersection between what socialists want and want business wants, specifically, big business; the end of the little guy.

This is why, supposedly, we have a constitution, to protect the rights of the individual. Socialists are about confiscating property. Big business is going to go along with that if it serves their interests.

[Tilted]

Originally Posted by libertytyranny

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Here is a quote from Rush on Greta Van Susteren:

This is hideous. This is not about health care, it's about control. It's about remaking the country, the economy. Look, proof of my point here that the joblessness is on purpose -- if your number one signature issue is health care -- and his is -- and if, which is true, that health insurance is not portable when you lose your job, what's the best thing you can do for yourself? Create unemployment. The more people unemployed, the more people losing their health insurance, the more people scared to death, the more people clamoring for it, Please save my health insurance, Please give me health insurance. I'm scared because they've been drummed into the fact that there's something in this country killing them every day, from coffee to nicotine to whatever it is.

Now I love mr. Rush. He makes SENSE to me. I don't disagree with him often. it happens, but not often. But this paragraph is getting to me..I cannot decide if this is really smart, or a little nutty...any opinions?

Opinions on whether or not the government is intentionally creating more joblessness? No, I don't think that is generally the case. Some of its policies may have that effect, but I don't believe it to be an actual goal of those policies.

Originally Posted by Rosehaven

You can't make a glittering generality about an increase in the minimum wage results in an increase in unemployment. Of course, it does sound good doesn't it? And when Rush says it with his distinctive air of authority, it sounds even better.

But the fact (and I apologize for using such a word) remains that study after study concludes the opposite. Princeton did one and the results showed an increase in employment.

To which 'Princeton' study are you referring? Please don't tell me you are referring to the Card-Krueger study based on fast food restaurants in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. I don't even think I need to comment on the premise and methodology of that study. But, I might, if that is what you are referring to.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Rosehaven

You can't make a glittering generality about an increase in the minimum wage results in an increase in unemployment. Of course, it does sound good doesn't it? And when Rush says it with his distinctive air of authority, it sounds even better.

But the fact (and I apologize for using such a word) remains that study after study concludes the opposite. Princeton did one and the results showed an increase in employment.

Really? Because I'd like to see that study. Everything I've read over the past twenty some years is that - *at least initially* and for a year afterwards - employment at the lowest levels either goes down or remains stagnant. And that at least is consistent with simple economics. You cannot require more money to go to payroll and have employment increase. Not unless you're stealing cash from somewhere.

[Rosehaven]

It may be of interest, and I'm sure it isn't, but George W. Bush signed the legislation to increase the minimum wage which took effect last Saturday.
The hated Obama had absolutely zero to do with this. But, don't let that little nugget stop anyone from spewing which is done so superbly here.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Rosehaven

It may be of interest, and I'm sure it isn't, but George W. Bush signed the legislation to increase the minimum wage which took effect last Saturday.
The hated Obama had absolutely zero to do with this. But, don't let that little nugget stop anyone from spewing which is done so superbly here.

Oh, allow me; George W Bush is the WORST president in our life time. By far.

Having said that, Obama is showing great promise in not wishing to be outdone.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Rosehaven

It may be of interest, and I'm sure it isn't, but George W. Bush signed the legislation to increase the minimum wage which took effect last Saturday.
The hated Obama had absolutely zero to do with this. But, don't let that little nugget stop anyone from spewing which is done so superbly here.

So, the study, please?

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

Who pays for the increased Minimum Wage?

When a business' cost of doing said business increases what do business' do?

Raise prices and/or cut labor costs. Easiest way to handle short-term rise in cost of doing business.

The minimum wage situation has always been a non-issue. It bothers some people, because they have this mistaken image of sections of our population trying to etch out a living on minimum wage, and it just isn't true. Most minimum wage earners are kids, part-timers or elderly.

Really. It's a non-issue. We can go years, or months, or decades without an increase in the minimum wage. If it was still as low as 2.35 an hour, like it was when I was a kid, no one would do the work. Simple economics sets what is necessary. It is not needed.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Rosehaven

It may be of interest, and I'm sure it isn't, but George W. Bush signed the legislation to increase the minimum wage which took effect last Saturday.
The hated Obama had absolutely zero to do with this. But, don't let that little nugget stop anyone from spewing which is done so superbly here.

I know that. Who's blaming Obama?

[EmptyTimCup]

Originally Posted by libertytyranny

People seem to fall into two categories..either Obama is doing it on purpose...

have you read about his Idol Sal Alinksy ....


FYI Hillary wrote a collage paper on the dude as well

[libertytyranny]

Im sorry, but you shouldn't be paid 8 dollars an hour to flip burgers. no matter who initiated it. my two cents.