Robert Reich describes the public option

[Nonno]

[Sonsie]

This speech by him is probably much more truthful: What an honest politician would say

Obama Advisor, Robert Reich To Elderly "We're Going To Let You Die!"

Robert Reich, former Labor Secretary under Bill Clinton and an adviser to President Barack Obama, spills the beans about the Democrat's plans for your health care!

[Baja28]

Originally Posted by Sonsie

This speech by him is probably much more truthful:

You skeered me. I thought Nonnothing aka FraudFlush was back! :whew:

[Sonsie]

Good analysis.

His main point was that the truth was untellable. And although his politics are left of center, his hypothetical unspeakable speech slaughtered every sacred cow the Berkeley audience held dear. So not only did Reich say the words above, but he said many other things besides.

* A solution in Iraq is going to be tough.
* Treating more sick people will mean younger people will pay more.
* It’s too expensive to treat older people at the end of their life “so we’re going to let you die”.
* If we use government to control costs there will be “less innovation” in medical technology and you should not expect to live much longer than your parents.
* Global warming can only be tackled by a carbon tax which is going to cost you a lot of money.
* We’re going to have to pay teachers more for quality education — costing you more — but we have to be willing to fire the turkeys despite the unions.
* Anyone who does an unskilled, repetitive job will lose it in the near future to outsourcing or automation. And there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
* A minimum wage doesn’t help as much as an earned income tax credit.
* Helping people at the bottom earn more is going to cost higher income people more money.
* Medicare will bankrupt the nation unless something is done and will impoverish the youth.
* The best way to ameliorate global poverty is to do away with farm subsidies.

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by Baja28

You skeered me. I thought Nonnothing aka FraudFlush was back! :whew:

Dipshiat has been over in Religion stirring his shiat there.

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by Lenny

Dipshiat has been over in Religion stirring his shiat there.

I haven't seen him there for a couple weeks either.


My guess is that he ran his mouth to the wrong person, and now he's in traction being fed through an IV with his jaw wired shut.

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by Toxick

I haven't seen him there for a couple weeks either.

My guess is that he ran his mouth to the wrong person, and now he's in traction being fed through an IV with his jaw wired shut.

One can only hope. My thoughts were that he was caught with his pants down within 1000 feet of an elementary school again.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Classic: "They're trying to SCARE you!" and then he closes with "THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Reich identifies the problem; not enough competition, then misses the solution, GOVERNMENT as opposed to industry competition.

Imagine, if you will, a 'public' option for;

A house
A car (kinda 1/2 way there)
Groceries
clothes
You name it.

Imagine a government car, house, blue jeans, box of cereal. Getting excited yet? Now, think about the quality of medical care Uncle Doctor Car, Home, Clothes and So Forth Builder Sam might offer you as a 'choice'.

It is absurd that the public option would not be cheaper, therefore keep what you have. Of COURSE it will be 'cheaper'. That's the entire point. It will be subsidized to whatever degree necessary to be cheaper.

Then, it becomes your only option.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Classic: "They're trying to SCARE you!" and then he closes with "THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Reich identifies the problem; not enough competition, then misses the solution, GOVERNMENT as opposed to industry competition.

Imagine, if you will, a 'public' option for;

A house
A car (kinda 1/2 way there)
Groceries
clothes
You name it.

Imagine a government car, house, blue jeans, box of cereal. Getting excited yet? Now, think about the quality of medical care Uncle Doctor Car, Home, Clothes and So Forth Builder Sam might offer you as a 'choice'.

It is absurd that the public option would not be cheaper, therefore keep what you have. Of COURSE it will be 'cheaper'. That's the entire point. It will be subsidized to whatever degree necessary to be cheaper.

Then, it becomes your only option.

If the government had to live by the same profit /loss model industry had to it would cost 200% more.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Pete

If the government had to live by the same profit /loss model industry had to it would cost 200% more.

And that isn't even part of the conversation; it doesn't have to.