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Old 09-18-2009, 10:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You are all just a gaggle of fearful losers. It's kind of sad really...... No it's not! Rock on, you clowns
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You are all just a gaggle of fearful losers. It's kind of sad really...... No it's not! Rock on, you clowns
Nonno, is this post authorized or are you breaking protocol with an actual thought of your own?
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Does He Lie? - HUMAN EVENTS

Another insightful and witty column by Charles Krauthammer.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Another insightful and witty column by Charles Krauthammer.




I do not think He LIES ..... he just believes his own bullchait .....



These Socialists only see their way as the solution to end all ills, and to that end nothing else matters ....

I am sure Obammy has juggled the dollarsto make it look like ObamaCare will not raise the deficit one bit ........ believing that by reducing FRAUD they can save billions




most of us are a bit more practical ..... we know good and well if the FRAUD, WASTE and ABUSE could have been eliminated it already would have


to rely on Pie in the Sky .... is deceitful to yourself


maybe I am just naive .... and are willing to give the POL's the benefit of the doubt



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(1) "I will not sign (a plan)," he solemnly pledged, "if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future. Period."


Wonderful. The president seems serious, veto-ready, determined to hold the line. Until, notes Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, you get to Obama's very next sentence: "And to prove that I'm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize."

This apparent strengthening of the pledge brilliantly and deceptively undermines it. What Obama suggests is that his plan will require mandatory spending cuts if the current rosy projections prove false. But there's absolutely nothing automatic about such cuts. Every Congress is sovereign. Nothing enacted today will force a future Congress or a future president to make any cuts in any spending, mandatory or not.

Just look at the supposedly automatic Medicare cuts contained in the Sustainable Growth Rate formula enacted to constrain out-of-control Medicare spending. Every year since 2003, Congress has waived the cuts.

Mankiw puts the Obama bait-and-switch in plain language. "Translation: I promise to fix the problem. And if I do not fix the problem now, I will fix it later, or some future president will, after I am long gone. I promise he will. Absolutely, positively, I am committed to that future president fixing the problem. You can count on it. Would I lie to you?"


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Obama doesn't lie. He merely elides, gliding from one dubious assertion to another. This has been the story throughout his whole health care crusade. Its original premise was that our current financial crisis was rooted in neglect of three things -- energy, education and health care. That transparent attempt to exploit Emanuel's Law -- a crisis is a terrible thing to waste -- failed for health care because no one is stupid enough to believe that the 2008 financial collapse was caused by a lack of universal health care.

So on to the next gambit: selling health care reform as a cure for the deficit. When that was exploded by the Congressional Budget Office's demonstration of staggering Obamacare deficits, Obama tried a new tack: selling his plan as revenue-neutral insurance reform -- until the revenue neutrality is exposed as phony future cuts and chimerical waste and fraud.

Obama doesn't lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.

Slickness wasn't fatal to "Slick Willie" Clinton because he possessed a winning, near irresistible charm. Obama's persona is more cool, distant, imperial. The charming scoundrel can get away with endless deception; the righteous redeemer cannot.
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