Maybe I'm down with Socialism after all

[BuddyLee]

Originally Posted by EmptyTimCup

your forgetting having to eat .... one of communisms biggest failures was the lack of ability to get food (which they had lost of) to market.


most spoiled at the train station waiting on transportation to get to the cities ...

with the PARTY Members getting the choice of what does come in ...

so if your ok with half rotted food, a waiting in line 6 hrs a day to just to get enough for the evening meal ....

Therein lies the problem with Socialism/Communism. You can never get away from classes, never! There will always be a class above the rest, always!

In order to set up such a system you need power and leadership. Even if you get a good group to start it up you'll eventually run into corruption and the like down the road. It all boils down to basic human instinct eventually. "Who cares about these 300 million when I'm eating lobster every night?"

Eventually, the masses who grew tired of the rich grow tired of the powerful. Their homes are ill-repaired and they're left with little food and resources. Their life of yesteryear doesn't seem so bad now.

[EmptyTimCup]

Originally Posted by BuddyLee

Therein lies the problem with Socialism/Communism. You can never get away from classes, never! There will always be a class above the rest, always!

Some Animals Are More Equal, than Others ......


we slave away running the State, so you don't have to, I therefore deserve these western jeans for my 22 yr old wife ....

[VoteJP]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

With Socialism, the rich and poor would join the middle class, and I'd be the same as I am now. Score!

The "Star Trek" shows are based on a Socialist society.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

BUT! With Socialism, the rich and poor would join the middle class, and I'd be the same as I am now. Score!

And, JPC would then become your equal and could move in next to you.
why,, you all could have drinks out on the patio everynight to unwind.













Im getting banned arent I.

[TurboK9]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

It is flat out ####ing criminal that someone paying no taxes should be allowed to vote.

So a soldier with a family of 4 who earns, say, 24K a year, shouldn't be allowed to vote becasue he doesn't pay taxes?

[Sonsie]

Originally Posted by Baja28

I have to call foul here. This guys writs a blog and references his sources as other blogs. I'm not buying that someone making over a million doesn't pay taxes (or even over $100K) for that matter. Plus he says they won't "owe" as in at the end of the year they won't have to write a check. They pay all year, they just don't under pay so they don't owe.

Ummm no. The paragraphs and the graphs came right from CNN with a link to CNN's site and the bottom graph came from The Heritage Org and is sourced to them as well. I gave the link to Tax Professors blog because he had it all compiled there. Hell, he didn't even have any of his own analysis at the link.

[Sonsie]

Originally Posted by TurboK9

So a soldier with a family of 4 who earns, say, 24K a year, shouldn't be allowed to vote becasue he doesn't pay taxes?

It's more of a matter of keeping the leeches from voting themselves more of your money. No one would accuse military members of being parasites. It's the professional slackers and people who live off the public dole habitually who shouldn't have a vote. They have a vested interest in picking your pocket.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by TurboK9

So a soldier with a family of 4 who earns, say, 24K a year, shouldn't be allowed to vote becasue he doesn't pay taxes?

We'll make an exception, there.

Here's the thing; taxes are so intertwined, sales taxes, user fees, taxes on airline tickets, hotels, etc, that we've completely lost accountability with our reps because all these taxes are beyond our reach, beyond the ballot box.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

You buncha freakin' brainwashed capitalists. Fine! If you want to work your butts off and pay taxes so that rich people can keep all their billions and you have to worry about your heating bill, go right ahead.

I want some government goodies. And I'm not talking about WIC beans, either. I want a house that I don't have to pay for, and I want a check for my beer and cigarettes, and I want some lobster from Shoppers. If you guys don't want your share, give it to me.

[Pandora]

Originally Posted by EmptyTimCup

So back to only the "LandOwners" getting a say, controlling the rest of us ?

Sonsie said it...

Originally Posted by Sonsie

It's more of a matter of keeping the leeches from voting themselves more of your money. No one would accuse military members of being parasites. It's the professional slackers and people who live off the public dole habitually who shouldn't have a vote. They have a vested interest in picking your pocket.

And I never said 'land owners,' I said TAXPAYERS...

Like me...