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Old 10-15-2009, 11:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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What if they are orphans?
I think they're eligible for Social Security payments and medicaid. I know if you lose just one parent you get Social Security payments up until 18.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What happens if they are college students and don't work?
There are exceptions to the requirement to purchase insurance (although that word, insurance, isn't really appropriately used to describe it), and there are subsidies to help some people purchase insurance. I suspect they would fall into one of those groups.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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had an instrumental part in getting Obama elected. Will they be happy when they are now forced to purchase health insurance at a hefty cost or be fined? Will there be a backlash? A 22 year old should have a lower premium because they are young and low risk, but now that they are being forced to buy Health Insurance to leverage the high costs of older people.

Face it young people, you are now going to HAVE to buy it and it is going to cost MORE just so the older generation can get boner pills and blood pressure treatment. Going to have to put off buying that car or that trip to Spring Break.
You are presupposing that young people are either A) aware of political current events; or B) care.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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What if they are orphans?
Like Vince said SS and Medicaid.

See it is not the welfare queens this health care thing is for. they already have health insurance...medicaid.

this is for people who work but still can't dish out $500, $600, $800 a month for health insurance.

If you are 23, fresh from college, healthy, working ......say Bank of America or something, how much value do you get from paying $400 a month for your cost share for health insurance offered by BOA? None...... your options are pay the $400 a month, pay a $2,500 fine for not having health insurance, the public option for $600 a month.

You have NO CHOICES other than that!

$400 a month with employer

$3,000 fine paid to the gov

$700 a month public option

Pick one Miss Healthy 23 year old with no health issues!
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I disagree completely. I think the young people voted for him simply because he was cool, young and black. they had not concept of what the hell he was going to do and didn't care. he wasn't a old white republican and the media said he was cool so they went for him.
I agree with this, and I know a few legitimate adults who voted for him for that same reason. And I do know several of these adults neither know nor care what is going on in politics and current events, and still think they're cool because they voted for the black guy.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You are presupposing that young people are either A) aware of political current events; or B) care.
I am presuming they didn't care BEFORE when it was "other peoples money" and now they will when it is costing "THEM" money.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Like Vince said SS and Medicaid.

See it is not the welfare queens this health care thing is for. they already have health insurance...medicaid.

this is for people who work but still can't dish out $500, $600, $800 a month for health insurance.

If you are 23, fresh from college, healthy, working ......say Bank of America or something, how much value do you get from paying $400 a month for your cost share for health insurance offered by BOA? None...... your options are pay the $400 a month, pay a $2,500 fine for not having health insurance, the public option for $600 a month.

You have NO CHOICES other than that!

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$700 a month public option

Pick one Miss Healthy 23 year old with no health issues!
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Like Vince said SS and Medicaid.

See it is not the welfare queens this health care thing is for. they already have health insurance...medicaid.

this is for people who work but still can't dish out $500, $600, $800 a month for health insurance.

If you are 23, fresh from college, healthy, working ......say Bank of America or something, how much value do you get from paying $400 a month for your cost share for health insurance offered by BOA? None...... your options are pay the $400 a month, pay a $2,500 fine for not having health insurance, the public option for $600 a month.

You have NO CHOICES other than that!

$400 a month with employer

$3,000 fine paid to the gov

$700 a month public option

Pick one Miss Healthy 23 year old with no health issues!
And the big shots in Congress? Guess what they pay for their healthcare? A whopping $40 a month. Everything is paid and they get curb service. The doctors make house calls for them.
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I haven't a clue.
Then they fall under the JPC plan.

they have everything they need... overflowing.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Im gonna have to agree with this..being a young person myself..many people I know had no clue about Obama and what he does..and still dont..they saw that he was supposed to be the cool guy..young..and hes black so hes got street cred...Mtv personalities and pdiddy promoting him...telling them that hes gonna change the world and stuff...I was amazed and disgusted that no one paid any attention to anything else but the hype..and these are college educated people..you would think they would do a little research! I think when they grow up a little..and actually get jobs that qualify them to pay taxes..their minds will change. Though many are still blind and have no idea whats going on...Im thinking that will change when at tax time..they dont get all of their money back for the first time...I know thats what got me...


and for the record I am in my early 20s and I support myself just fine..and have for awhile...even while I was in college. In fact I really pride myself on doing so..and always have. I dont want anyone to take care of me..and I know Im not the only young person out there who feels like that..though it seems that way sometimes.
You are a rare breed!!! Keep up the good work and you will go far!
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