Washington Emolument

[cwo_ghwebb]

Immediately following the announcement, Claudia began to make the case that it was unconstitutional for Obama to accept the prize. Article I of the Constitution provides that "No person holding any office of Profit or Trust… shall, without the consent of Congress, accept any present, Emolument, Office or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or Foreign State." The Nobel is a private fund, but the awardees are determined by members of the Norwegian Parliament.

In short, Claudia maintained, the government of Norway is slipping a big check to the President of the United States. Her case is bolstered, I might add, by the clear agenda the bribe is intended to encourage, i.e. the choosing in all instances of policies deemed peaceful, peaceable, peace-oriented and/or peace-inducing by the pacifist international left. Once again, those who admire this country from foreign shores have a truer sense of its founding vision than many of its own meandering children.

NOW HER CALL has found an echo in the person of Tad Armstrong of Edwardsville, Missouri. Mr. Armstrong is an attorney who founded the ELL (Earn it, Learn it, or Lose it) Constitution Clubs. In an op-ed piece in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch this weekend he confirmed the view that Nobel's dynamite is blowing up the Constitution.

He adds a new wrinkle for folks who regard appeals to the Constitution as quaint and anachronistic. He cites a law passed by Congress in 1966, now numbered as Section 7342 of the U.S. Code, which declares that absent specific consent of Congress any gift or decoration received by a sitting President must be accepted on behalf of the United States and turned over to the Treasury.

The American Spectator : Washington Emolument

What are the odds these clowns in Congress are even aware of the law?

What are the odds Obama turns over the money to the Treasury?

[huntr1]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

The American Spectator : Washington Emolument

What are the odds these clowns in Congress are even aware of the law?

What are the odds Obama turns over the money to the Treasury?

The Redskins have better odds of winning the Superbowl this year than EITHER of your questions.

[SamSpade]

The "prize money" disturbs me. As federal workers, we have very clear rules about gifts, such as at Christmas time - and also, gifts to supervisors and from supervisors to those that work for them. And that's to say nothing of taking money from foreign organizations. Heck, we're not even allowed to keep jury duty money.

I can't believe the President can be allowed to pocket the money, although historically - that is exactly what Wilson did (TR donated it to charity, having plenty of his own money).

[awpitt]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

What are the odds these clowns in Congress are even aware of the law?

Well, the law doesn't apply because Obama is not being awarded by a "any King, Prince or Foreign State". While 5 of the committee members are appointed by theNorwegian Parliament, the Nobel Prize is not awarded by the Norwegian Parliament. Now, if Obama was going to receive a Knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II, that would be a different situation.

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

What are the odds Obama turns over the money to the Treasury?

Probably not. He's already said the money is being given to charities.




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[Animal]

Originally Posted by awpitt

Well, the law doesn't apply because Obama is not being awarded by a "any King, Prince or Foreign State". While 5 of the committee members are appointed by theNorwegian Parliament, the Nobel Prize is not awarded by the Norwegian Parliament. Now, if Obama was going to receive a Knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II, that would be a different situation.


Probably not. He's already said the money is being given to charities.




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Are you sure the law doesn't apply? The law defines “foreign government” as—
(A) any unit of foreign governmental authority, including any foreign national, State, local, and municipal government;
(B) any international or multinational organization whose membership is composed of any unit of foreign government described in subparagraph (A); and
(C) any agent or representative of any such unit or such organization, while acting as such;

They don't call it the Norwegian Nobel Prize for nothing. The Norwegian Parliamant (the Storting) appoints the members, of which 4 of the five are current members of the Storting, one is the Storting President. To say it isn't a gift from a foreign government would be a stretch.

[awpitt]

Originally Posted by Animal

Are you sure the law doesn't apply? The law defines “foreign government” as—
(A) any unit of foreign governmental authority, including any foreign national, State, local, and municipal government;
(B) any international or multinational organization whose membership is composed of any unit of foreign government described in subparagraph (A); and
(C) any agent or representative of any such unit or such organization, while acting as such;

They don't call it the Norwegian Nobel Prize for nothing. The Norwegian Parliamant (the Storting) appoints the members, of which 4 of the five are current members of the Storting, one is the Storting President. To say it isn't a gift from a foreign government would be a stretch.

That would make sence if they were "acting as such" but they're not. As members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, they're acting under the terms of Alfred Nobel's Will which governs everything about the Nobel prizes. It's not called the "Norwegian Nobel Prize". It's called the Nobel Peace Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee was established by Alfred Nobel's Will not the Norwegian Govt. His Will just stipulates that the 5 members be appointed by the Norwegian Parliamant. At first, the committee was made up of members of the Parliamant. That was changed and now members of Parliamant do not sit on the committee, they're just appointed by it.

You will notice that none of the current committee members are members of Parliamant thus the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize is a function of Alfred Nobel's Will not the Norwegian govt.

http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/nom...ittee/members/



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[Animal]

Originally Posted by awpitt

That would make sence if they were "acting as such" but they're not. As members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, they're acting under the terms of Alfred Nobel's Will which governs everything about the Nobel prizes. It's not called the "Norwegian Nobel Prize". It's called the Nobel Peace Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee was established by Alfred Nobel's Will not the Norwegian Govt. His Will just stipulates that the 5 members be appointed by the Norwegian Parliamant. At first, the committee was made up of members of the Parliamant. That was changed and now members of Parliamant do not sit on the committee, they're just appointed by it.

Sure they are acting as the government, why do you think Obama already said he would donate the money to a charity, because he knows he cannot accept it.

You will notice that none of the current committee members are members of Parliamant thus the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize is a function of Alfred Nobel's Will not the Norwegian govt.

http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/nom...ittee/members/



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Really, none are current members? How about Jagland, Thorbjørn and Valle, Ågot

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

I can't believe the President can be allowed to pocket the money, although historically - that is exactly what Wilson did (TR donated it to charity, having plenty of his own money).

That's what I was going to mention is BO will probably donate the money to charity (ACORN or something )

[ImnoMensa]

Originally Posted by Animal

Sure they are acting as the government, why do you think Obama already said he would donate the money to a charity, because he knows he cannot accept it.


Really, none are current members? How about Jagland, Thorbjørn and Valle, Ågot

It isnt up to Obama to give the money to Charity. The money belongs to the people of the United States just as any other gift. Bush couldnt give away his gifts either.

Bush Won't Get To Keep The Gifts He Amassed While In Office

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Please tell me since these liberals have taken control that they have had any regard for laws and our constitution. And don't think that, if pressured, this congress wont give him the nod to receive the award.