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Old 07-08-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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‘Gunwalker’ Whistleblower: ATF Director ‘Horribly






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‘Gunwalker’ Whistleblower: ATF Director ‘Horribly Irresponsible’

Says Vince Cefalu: "[Director Ken Melson is] not taking responsibility for what he's done. At the end of the day he made decisions on behalf of ATF and people died for it." Update: Someone in Congress funded Gunwalker via the stimulus bill.
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ATF Special Agent Vince Cefalu continued:
At this point he’s doing what anyone would do, he’s saving his own ass.
Cefalu is one of the founders of CleanUpATF.org, a message board dedicated to addressing abuses within the ATF. He is one of the most vocal critics of the heads of the organization.

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According to Cefalu this is an attempt by Melson to avoid responsibility for the operation which led to the deaths of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata, and more than 150 Mexican nationals. New reports now say that guns from Fast and Furious are being found in Arizona, having come full circle from the operation which was based in Phoenix. Said Cefalu:
He’s horribly irresponsible. He’s not taking responsibility for what he’s done. At the end of the day he made decisions on behalf of ATF and people died for it.
Cefalu said the operation was never about actually arresting cartel members for arms trafficking, it was about headlines for the ATF and its upper echelons, more budget, more gun control, and more media attention for ATF:
There’s no Mister Big in Mexico, there’s no … Iron Pipeline. It doesn’t exist.

When everybody is screaming terrorism and counterterrorism no one wants to talk to anyone but the FBI. If there’s gunrunning on the border and thousands of guns flowing into Mexico it’s more headlines for ATF.

It’s fame and glory and grabbing headlines.
Cefalu said the operation was akin to the DEA deciding to track the flow of drugs in a major city by putting tons of high-quality heroin on the streets, then waiting for a rash of overdoses to see which part of the city had the most drug activity.

Meanwhile, emails have revealed that high-level officials within DOJ were aware of the operation, which Attorney General Eric Holder has repeatedly said he only found out about when the story broke.

According to the emails, Assistant Attorney General (Criminal Division) Lanny Breuer, Melson, Acting Deputy Director of the ATF William Hoover, DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart, and Director of the FBI Robert Mueller were all aware of the operation.

It defies belief that Holder was unaware of the operation, and it is highly unlikely that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Homeland Security Chief Janet Napolitano were unaware of an operation that had both national security and international relations implications. It seems increasingly likely there will be multiple resignations as a result of this investigation and possibly criminal prosecutions.


a lot of someones should be facing charges ...........
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:20 PM   #2
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Someone in Congress knew about Gunrunner, and Obama signed funding for it into law

Over at the Free Republic, a poster found this:
I posted in the thread: “Only time “gun” or “firearm” appears is in the part that give $10,000,000 to the ATF for Project Gunrunner. That was H.R. 495, asking for 15,000,000 for Gunrunner”.
H.R. 495 that I mentioned never made it out of committee, but it looks as it was to specifically fund Gunrunner.
Instead portions of it were rolled into the stimulus package a month later. That text found in H.R.1 is:
For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner.
Notice that’s $40,000,000 for Southern border enforcement, $10,000,000 of which specifically for Project Gunrunner. What does $10 million pay for here? It didn’t hire any new agents that I am aware of.

So Obama didn’t know anything about this, but he signed $10,000,000 in funding for the program. This thing would stink on a dung pile. It’s time for indictments.



yeah know you have to sign something before you can find out what's in it
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:46 AM   #3
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I'm trying to watch this story as close as I can. From what I'm hearing this was a completely illegal operation and expenditure of our tax dollars; especially using stimulus money for it. I think this is going to be big. And if the facts come out before 2012, it very well could take Obama down. I expect Obama to soon throw Holder under the bus and he will resign soon. If this GOP-controlled house doesn’t aggressively push this investigation I will have lost all faith in the GOP. This isn’t about political opportunity; it’s about the law and rectifying the death of a border agent and who knows how many others as a result of the sale of these weapons.

I think this story is going to be big.
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:13 PM   #4
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I love the part about the Mexican Government want to file charges ...


after many years of law and order .. I am thinking '


depraved indifference - charges in the US as well


knowing they were allowing illegal sales to people who would not have been able to purchase weapons with out the approval of ATF personal


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