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Old 10-01-2011, 11:50 AM   #1
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BURKE: American women don’t need Planned Parenthoo




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BURKE: American women don’t need Planned Parenthood
Women’s health care isn’t their cause - it’s abortion
By Denise M. Burke

In response to this week’s announcement that Planned Parenthood is the subject of a congressional oversight investigation and to earlier action by nine states to strip the scandal-ridden organization of its taxpayer funding, Planned Parenthood is recycling the discredited claim that its principal mission is not to promote and provide abortions but to ensure “women’s access to primary and preventive care.”

However, its claims are readily dismissed when you look beyond the politically fueled and desperate rhetoric to the facts.

The controversy over Indiana’s 2011 law prohibiting all health care contracts with and grants to Planned Parenthood provides an instructive case study. Faced with the loss of millions of dollars in Medicaid and other government funding, Planned Parenthood made the calculated decision to divert attention from its record in the state and instead accuse Indiana officials of conspiring to deny women access to basic health care. Specifically, Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards claimed the law would “take away health care from thousands of women.”

Inherent in this ploy is a disingenuous effort to position the organization as an irreplaceable provider of well-woman exams, Pap smears, sexually transmitted disease (STD) tests and other basic care to women. Unfortunately for Planned Parenthood, the facts tell a very different story.

According to its own statistics, Planned Parenthood clinics in Indiana serve less than 1 percent of the state’s Medicaid patients while providing more than 50 percent of the state’s abortions. Obviously, the overwhelming majority of Indiana women are getting their basic health care elsewhere and avoiding the abortion-saturated Planned Parenthood.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:24 PM   #2
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Would you expect anything less from liberals? People have their own personal doctors. No one claims PP as their primary care physician. PP is the abortion leader in America but they'll deny it till the end.

Just like PBS cried when their funding was being cut; "no more Big Bird for the kids" they said. It's the liberal way because they know that their people are puppets that will believe anything. (They now believe that the USA has 57 states). Obama has only a few left to visit. Really; he said so himself...
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Old 10-01-2011, 07:47 PM   #3
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Denise Burke's opinion rings hollow as soon as you notice her title "vice president of legal affairs for Americans United for Life"
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:09 PM   #4
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Denise Burke's opinion rings hollow as soon as you notice her title "vice president of legal affairs for Americans United for Life"


so you are disagreeing and you believe PP is a Primary Health Provider for Women



or because of her association, her opinion is not valid
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so you are disagreeing and you believe PP is a Primary Health Provider for Women



or because of her association, her opinion is not valid
The latter.
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:50 PM   #6
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Would you expect anything less from liberals? People have their own personal doctors. No one claims PP as their primary care physician. PP is the abortion leader in America but they'll deny it till the end.

Just like PBS cried when their funding was being cut; "no more Big Bird for the kids" they said. It's the liberal way because they know that their people are puppets that will believe anything. (They now believe that the USA has 57 states). Obama has only a few left to visit. Really; he said so himself...
planned Parenthood provides a LEGAL service to women who ELECT to have it. Circumventing law to put them out of business because you or anyone else thinks it's right make you just as good as Obama and his ilk trying to circumvent legal processes to change the rules.

Planned Parenthood is doing NOTHING illegal, but the conservatives that ##### about Obama and the liberals resort to he same dirty politics to get their way.

Bunch of.friggin morons.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:05 PM   #7
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planned Parenthood provides a LEGAL service to women who ELECT to have it. Circumventing law to put them out of business because you or anyone else thinks it's right make you just as good as Obama and his ilk trying to circumvent legal processes to change the rules.

Planned Parenthood is doing NOTHING illegal, but the conservatives that ##### about Obama and the liberals resort to he same dirty politics to get their way.

Bunch of.friggin morons.
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Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered by a physical disorder, illness, or injury.

not funding them is not illegal either.
and no matter how they cook the books, the government money is still be used for abortions. So, under the Hyde Amendment, they actually are doing something illegal. Unless they can prove all the abortions were for the above listed reasons.
As far as state funding, it is up to the individual state to determine if they will fund Planned Parenthood.
I wouldn't stand in front of an abortion clinic to stop women from going in, because for now, abortions are legal, however, I do think its acceptable to petition the governments to stop funding the abortions.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:12 PM   #8
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not funding them is not illegal either.
and no matter how they cook the books, the government money is still be used for abortions. So, under the Hyde Amendment, they actually are doing something illegal. Unless they can prove all the abortions were for the above listed reasons.
As far as state funding, it is up to the individual state to determine if they will fund Planned Parenthood.
I wouldn't stand in front of an abortion clinic to stop women from going in, because for now, abortions are legal, however, I do think its acceptable to petition the governments to stop funding the abortions.
then do it the right way. If that's the case it SHOULD be able to be proven, and as I understand investigations have been done and there was no proof found that they were using federal funds for individuals getting abortions.

Someone take them to court and PROVE it instead of resorting to dirty politics.

Point being, they can't prove it, they can't provide evidence of any kind to support them.so instead we'll use backdoor politics to try to close their doors, and get their way DESPITE the law. nno different than the dirty loony liberals.
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planned Parenthood provides a LEGAL service to women who ELECT to have it. Circumventing law to put them out of business because you or anyone else thinks it's right make you just as good as Obama and his ilk trying to circumvent legal processes to change the rules.
Planned Parenthood is doing NOTHING illegal, but the conservatives that ##### about Obama and the liberals resort to he same dirty politics to get their way.

then do it the right way. If that's the case it SHOULD be able to be proven, and as I understand investigations have been done and there was no proof found that they were using federal funds for individuals getting abortions.
They ARE doing something very illegal. Abortion is murder no matter who "elects" it. They ARE using government money to fund it. So the gov't needs to end my tax money going to them. Since liberals won't stop it, at least stop using taxpayer funds for their dirty work.

No proof?? Come on Bob! Do you believe Sadaam had no WMD's too?
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:45 PM   #10
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They ARE doing something very illegal. Abortion is murder no matter who "elects" it. They ARE using government money to fund it. So the gov't needs to end my tax money going to them. Since liberals won't stop it, at least stop using taxpayer funds for their dirty work.

No proof?? Come on Bob! Do you believe Sadaam had no WMD's too?
IF there was proof, they wouldn't be "de-funding" them, they would make the accusation, prove the accusation and LEGALLY pull all of their funding.

Since they can't prove it, they have to resort the same dirty tactics the liberals use when the law isn't on their side.

Makes us (more you than we as I don't support it at all) no better than them.





AND Abortion isn't murder (if it is, please point me to the link where it's written) and whether you agree with it or not, shouldn't allow us to use the same dirty politics we accuse Obama of using to get his way when the law isn't on his side.

I'm sure you were just as supportive when the Democrats didn't agree with the war in Iraq and wanted to de-fund the troops too??
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