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Old 11-04-2011, 10:21 AM   #1
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Hounded by a muckraking press and divided by perso




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Hounded by a muckraking press and divided by personal ambition, the American conservative movement is becoming its own worst enemy

Another week and another Republican presidential campaign is imploding. Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry and now Herman Cain have faced an extraordinary degree of scrutiny into their private lives, some of it so brutal that it borders on the sadistic. All this innuendo and bad-mouthing has accomplished is to splinter the Right and elevate Mitt Romney – a candidate who is, himself, potentially primed to implode in a general election against Obama. It’s time for the Republican candidates to stop the name-calling, stop spreading gossip about each other and get back to talking about the issues. Otherwise they could end up giving Obama a second term by default.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:15 AM   #2
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The following is an analysis by one of the posters. Never seen it put so completely, and so succinctly in one place before.

I've been thinking the same thing, particularly in regards to his being reelected; it's what I fear, actually.

I think it answers why conservatives are so desperate to elect almost anybody who can beat Obama. I think conservatives, whether they've thought the whole thing through or not, instinctively realize.

Of course, I'm not so sure that even if the whole OWS thing doesn't become a crisis by November 12, the revolutionaries in power will make sure it turns into one. Historically, that's the way these things always turn out.

Anyway, Cain probable has the best chance out of the entire field, depending upon a) how many smart people he can surround himself with, b) how he handles this current crisis of anonymous accusers, c) who he aligns himself with as Veep (examples: Jindal, Rubio, or someone like them), and d) whether or not he can get kingmaker Sarah to back his play.

I'm a conservative libertarian. Or a libertarian with conservative tendencies (I was born this way!). I don't care if they put Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer on the ballot, at this point, if he can beat Obama.

"HostileLogic [writes]

Today 05:30 AM
danoconnor, it goes from bad to worse to downright dangerous. How many times now have American Conservatives been asked to hold our noses and vote for another one of these GOP power elite spawns? The Tea Party emergence itself is proof perfect of Conservative disgust and a refusal to continue following the marching orders of this political elite maggotry.

But there is a monumental difference this time around in the 2012 elections. In the past, other GOP coronated spawns represented a steady but reasonably predictable growth of the size of government authorotarianism and decine of liberty. But the emergence of Obama represents a new paradigm; a much more rapid descent into tyranny. Truly, if he gains a 2nd term, I do believe this will inevitably lead to violent conflict.

First, the only reason that Obama has held back from waging all out war on this nation is because he understands he MUST get re-elected in order to fully carry out his mission of destruction. And even saying this, many of us understand that much of the general public is still unaware of the breadth and depth of his ongoing malevolence. This is essentially the result of two factors: First, a great number of the electorate are government-educated minds with no greater intellectual development than heads of lettuce. Second, and not disconnected from the first factor is the fact that the Marx Stream Media has been able to cover the tracks of his ongoing malevolence. Ignorance is easily deceived.

If Obama is actually re-elected, all hell will break loose. No longer having any fear of a re-election he will, in spite of a majority Republican Congress' best efforts, unleash a bureaucratic/regulatory and Executive Orders scorched earth war against this nation's economy.


But I do think you are right that if Romney is elected, this will likely spawn a 3rd party movement. But even before that happens, there is also the great risk that many Conservatives will sit home home in the general election. Many did so in the 2008 election, such was the level of disgust. This is something that many Republicans don't want to hear. And I'm not convinced that the emergence of a 3rd party will come soon enough to avoid serious conflict of the worst kind.

But somebody had better start listening. IMHO, the GOP power elite are playing a deadlier than usual game of Russian roulette - one that contains more than a single bullet in the cylinder.

And btw, special kudos to Nile Gardiner for appearing on Bill O'Reilly's "The Factor" last Thursday evening. Nile delivered a superb commentary, but one very important part was his highly accurate description of Obama's efforts for exactly what they represent - Marxism."
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