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Old 04-19-2012, 04:25 PM   #1
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CNN Anchor Has Testy Exchange With Allen West





CNN Anchor Has Testy Exchange With Allen West Over Communist Remarks: ‘Name Names’


Allen West’s comments that there are nearly 80 Communists in the House just won’t go away. And CNN is making sure of that.

CNN anchor Soledad O’Brien, for example, had a testy exchange with West on Thursday morning, confronting him on the remarks and demanding he “name names.”

From the beginning, O’Brien was combative, vehemently disagreeing with Allen West regarding Ted Nugent’s controversial recent comments. Then they turned to West’s own remarks. After playing the clip, O’Brien asked him about it, and West said that Communists have “renamed themselves progressive” but the ideology has stayed the same. Mediaite picks it up from there with a transcript:
“So name names for me,” O’Brien said. “Start naming the 78 to 81…”

“Oh, we don’t have to…” West countered.

“Oh, we do! I’m dying to know,” O’Brien pressed. “Which are the members of the…”

“You can go look up the progressive caucus…” interrupted West.

“I got ‘em right here!” O’Brien interjected — and seemingly out of thin air pulled out a list of the members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

“When then you’ve got the names,” West said.

“So Keith Ellison is a communist?” asked O’Brien. “Raúl Grijalva is a communist?”

“Well, look, I’m just talking about the fact that the ideology and principles — you can call it whatever you want…”

“Tammy Baldwin is a communist? Judy Chu is a communist?” O’Brien continued.

“You can call it whatever you want,” West replied.

“Yeah, but I want to know what you’re calling it,” O’Brien said.

“I’m calling it this,” West clarified. “Communist, progressive, Marxist, statist, another term being used. I’m looking at things they believe in. If you don’t think we have to stand upon truth and be able to identify and clearly contrast the different principles and values and ideologies of governance here in this country, then we’re never going to get to the fact of accepting the true debate happening in America. We don’t need a bureaucratic nanny state. We need to stay a Constitutional Republic. I think a lot of people need to study that and understand what it is.”
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:46 PM   #2
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Only 80? I would have guessed a lot more than that.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:10 AM   #3
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:14 AM   #4
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That chick still has a show because she's pretty, right?
Basically, yes.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:45 AM   #6
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West dropped the ball on that. Instead of trying to back off, he should have started rattling off names.

Words mean something and just because "progressives" don't like their ideology labeled appropriately doesn't mean it's wrong to do so.

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Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order.
Now tell me that doesn't describe the "progressive" movement in one sentence.

And even if you forget Wiki and go with a straight definition:

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com·mu·nism
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a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
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( often initial capital letter ) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
So yes, the Democratic party is made up almost entirely of Communists, and the Republican party isn't far behind. Call things what they are and stop playing these ridiculous redefinition games.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:04 AM   #7
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Now tell me that doesn't describe the "progressive" movement in one sentence.

the Progressives from the early part of the last century, were all about Marxism, Stalin, Lenin ...... etc

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So yes, the Democratic party is made up almost entirely of Communists, and the Republican party isn't far behind.

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as FA Hayek said, the longer a paticuar form of Gov. is in power, the more the slide towards Central Planning or control over everything


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