UAW reinventing itself as a civil rights bunch

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Yep, sure enough, it aint about taking over another automaker, it's about the poor downtrodden workers having a voice. And I kind of have to say Reuters really blew the objectivity meter, with not one dissenting opinion sought, other than the bit by the company spokeman. Wanna bet 15 minutes of looking on the ground near the plant coulda turned up a few workers willing to give another opinion of the company meetings? A few quotes.....


UAW sets sights to organize Nissan plant in US South | Reuters

The effort was revealed this week by union officials, state politicians and civil rights leaders.

I love how there's this combined effort between govt, civil rights leaders, and the labor union.

"We can't be a meaningful union, we cannot do the job our members at Ford, GM and Chrysler deserve if we don't organize the total industry," King said last month during an interview with Reuters in New York.

Meaning if we cant intimidate (Card Check anyone?) a whole new generation of union members, we are doomed.

Also, this cracks me up....

But King is eager to show a new UAW has emerged from past practices that helped submarine the dominance of Detroit's auto manufacturers and that the union is a better partner with management. He points to the union's labor contracts with General Motors Co, Ford Motor Co and Chrysler Group LLC as evidence of the UAW's new flexibility.

Yep, what you were forced into at gunpoint shows your flexibility

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After reading the article, it sounds to me like the workers at that plant are leaning towards being organized. I can also see where it can become a civil rights issue when you have politicians like Walker taking away citizens right to collectively bargain. The right to choose is what it boils down to.

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by laynpipe

I can also see where it can become a civil rights issue when you have politicians like Walker taking away citizens right to collectively bargain. The right to choose is what it boils down to.

What does anything Walker (and governors in other states, plus the Federal govt) did and are doing vis a vis reigning in the costs of public employees have to do with unions in private sector industries??

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by laynpipe

After reading the article, it sounds to me like the workers at that plant are leaning towards being organized. .

two Nissan workers at the Canton plant told Reuters that they want a stronger voice in how workers are compensated.

[Tilted (Premo)]

UAW reinventing itself as a civil rights bunch

Any chance they might start by returning the billions of dollars they stole from investors and pension funds, or had the federal government steal on their behalf, in the Great American Auto Industry Heist of 2009?

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

Any chance they might start by returning the billions of dollars they stole from investors and pension funds, or had the federal government steal on their behalf, in the Great American Auto Industry Heist of 2009?

Did you read this;

Can Germany come to the euro zone’s rescue? - The Washington Post

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

Any chance they might start by returning the billions of dollars they stole from investors and pension funds, or had the federal government steal on their behalf, in the Great American Auto Industry Heist of 2009?

Did you read this;

Can Germany come to the euro zone’s rescue? - The Washington Post

Not directly related. More of an overview piece that, connecting a view dots, and a lesson or 9, especially Germany's labor cooperation, to help get them back up and running.

[Tilted (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Did you read this;

Can Germany come to the euro zone’s rescue? - The Washington Post

Not directly related. More of an overview piece that, connecting a view dots, and a lesson or 9, especially Germany's labor cooperation, to help get them back up and running.

I had not, thanks. Germany's in a tight spot. If it doesn't help the rest of the EU, their problems likely will eventually visit some misfortune on Germany's economy. But at the same time, what prospects are there in extending yourself to help others that are in desperate need of help yet seem unwilling to bear the burden (and near-term pain) of helping themselves?

Only the United States along with China and other countries with large foreign exchange reserves could create such a fund. That this now seems politically impossible is one measure of global peril.

The only reason that suggestions to this effect aren't building volume here in the U.S. is that they would be toxic politically. Give me some politicians (or one important politician) that don't need to worry about getting reelected (for whatever reason), and I think we just might start hearing domestic calls for us to help save Europe backed up by assertions that we're the only one that can.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

Give me some politicians (or one important politician) that don't need to worry about getting reelected (for whatever reason), and I think we just might start hearing domestic calls for us to help save Europe backed up by assertions that we're the only one that can.

George W. Bush.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

(A) what prospects are there in extending yourself to help others that are in desperate need of help yet seem unwilling to bear the burden (and near-term pain) of helping themselves?


(B) for us to help save Europe backed up by assertions that we're the only one that can.

Catch 22.

How do you help someone who won't help themselves? By definition, isn't helping someone who won't help themselves, not helping them?

And, if so, is it then proper to say we are the only ones who can help someone who won't help themselves?

I mean, yeah, there are all sorts of details; how hard are they trying/what are the particulars of the chances of their success. However, if the the word 'no' isn't even on the table then, this is all we get; an ever weakening 'strong' party and a weaker party that is getting weaker as well.

This is what infuriates me about TARP and the GM bailout; the opportunity, the pressure, the urgency to take all those great minds and talents and FIX the ####ing things, GONE!!!!