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Van Jones, Coulter and Huckabee Clash on ‘This Week’ Over Adding Jobs to the Public Sector


President Barack Obama may have given further fuel to the fire for those campaigning to unseat him in 2012. During a press event at the White House Friday morning, the president told a room full of journalists that “the private sector is doing fine.”

This comes following 40 straight weeks of the unemployment rate over 8 percent.

On ABC’s “This Week” With George Stephanopoulos Sunday, discussion on the gaffe and a rough week for the president served as a starting point for a lively debate featuring Ann Coulter and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, coming at odds against Van Jones and former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell. Originally discussing how the insensitive comment may be used politically, Coulter shifted the conversation towards the public sector, and the president’s plans to look to growing the public sector as a means to get people back to work and the economy back on track.

When asked earlier on the program about the “fine” remark, the president’s Senior Campaign Advisor David Axelrod said “the American people are smarter than that,” and understood the context of the president’s remarks on our economy as “the storm clouds that are rolling in from Europe and elsewhere.” Axelrod went on to say that one of President Obama’s steps to promote job creation is adding jobs in the public sector:

And put the teachers and firefighters and police who have lost their jobs over the last — we have had 4.3 million private sector jobs created over the last 27 months, but we lost almost half a million public sector jobs, and most of them are teachers. Many of them are firefighters and police. And his argument was that we ought to move on this, Congress ought to move on this.

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As the discussion began to evolve into a shouting match involving all four panelists, Stephanopoulos silenced the crowd and questioned Gov. Huckabee directly; “What is wrong with the jobs for teachers, firemen and policemen.”

“There is nothing wrong with it, my did was a fireman, I love firemen jobs,” replied Gov. Huckabee. “But here’s what you need, you need enough firemen to put out the fires. You don’t go arbitrarily hire firemen, policemen or teachers, unless you have more kids in school. And what we need to be talking about is, we need not to be hiring more teachers, but hiring better teachers and getting rid of the ones that don’t teach.

“When 50 percent of the kids in Chicago, where Obama’s campaign headquarters is located, aren’t even graduating,” added Gov. Huckabee,”we need to be talking about improving education and not just increasing the number of public employees, who in Chicago get $100,000 a year in salary and benefits.”

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Because Obama, Axelrod, et al… are socialists, and anti-capitalist, they see the private sector as inconsequential and meaningless.

[SamSpade]

Can someone - actually, can ANYONE - explain to me what a "public economy" is?

From where I sit, it doesn't exist. It's pretty much - "we didn't get enough money to pay for everything". That's it. It doesn't respond to demand. It doesn't hire and fire based on competition and response to the consumer. It has no semblance that I can see to the "private economy".

In fact, the one thing I do see is, the "public economy" crashes when the private sector collapses, because it's pretty much a parasite feeding off the private sector - the only difference being how fast does it such the blood out.

Originally Posted by SamSpade

"public economy" is?

It's pretty much - "we didn't get enough money to pay for everything".

IMHO this ^

[cwo_ghwebb]

For me, it appears as a big shell game. Let Obama reward his friends in the states that cannot manage their budgets, such as Maryland, Penn., California, Michigan (all under Democrat control) and punish his enemies for those states that have managed to control their budgets under Republican control.

All with Federal Tax Dollars. Simple enuf explanation?

[SamSpade]

I understand sometimes that managing a state or city government can be rough - you have a finite amount of funds and sometimes more obligations on things that do need to get done - run the schools, fix the roads and so forth.

But the public sector is a parasite on the back of the private sector. If it doesn't get enough blood, it's just going to make things worse if it keeps sucking more and more of it. Like any successful parasite, it survives if it doesn't kill the host by taking too much.

There is no "public economy". There's just public sector budgets that overspend.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

Can someone - actually, can ANYONE - explain to me what a "public economy" is?

A socialist economy.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

I understand sometimes that managing a state or city government can be rough - you have a finite amount of funds and sometimes more obligations on things that do need to get done - run the schools, fix the roads and so forth.

But the public sector is a parasite on the back of the private sector. If it doesn't get enough blood, it's just going to make things worse if it keeps sucking more and more of it. Like any successful parasite, it survives if it doesn't kill the host by taking too much.

There is no "public economy". There's just public sector budgets that overspend.

The problem is the belief that the economy can be controlled and managed by the government and still be called the ‘private sector’. Funds to the government were not intended to run economies. They are intended to run the government; in a very limited fashion.

The problem is, our general population has become accustomed to looking toward the government to fix our economic problems. So, of course the government is going to feel responsible in responding with policies that do nothing more than draw power to them and take power away from the private sector. A socialist’s dream.

As much as I want to blame all this crap on our government, the blame really lies on voters that put these people in power.

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[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

As much as I want to blame all this crap on our government, the blame really lies on voters that put these people in power.

That would be pretty much all of us, yes?