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Old 06-20-2012, 10:16 AM   #1
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White House to implement Obamacare provisions

White House to implement Obamacare provisions


Covering all the bases ahead of a momentous Supreme Court ruling, the administration of President Barack Obama plans to move ahead with major parts of the president's health care law if its most controversial provision does not survive, according to veteran Democrats closely involved with the legislation.


Even if the requirement that nearly every U.S. resident have health insurance is declared unconstitutional, the remaining parts of the law would have far-reaching impact, putting coverage within reach of millions of uninsured people, laying new obligations on insurers and employers, and improving Medicare benefits even as payments to many service providers get scaled back.


The White House says Obama is confident the whole law will be upheld when the court issues its ruling in the next week or two, but officials will be ready for any outcome.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:26 PM   #2
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White House to implement Obamacare provisions


Covering all the bases ahead of a momentous Supreme Court ruling, the administration of President Barack Obama plans to move ahead with major parts of the president's health care law if its most controversial provision does not survive, according to veteran Democrats closely involved with the legislation.


Even if the requirement that nearly every U.S. resident have health insurance is declared unconstitutional, the remaining parts of the law would have far-reaching impact, putting coverage within reach of millions of uninsured people, laying new obligations on insurers and employers, and improving Medicare benefits even as payments to many service providers get scaled back.


The White House says Obama is confident the whole law will be upheld when the court issues its ruling in the next week or two, but officials will be ready for any outcome.
I don't remember if it was here in the forums; or in an e-mail somone sent me; if Congress had to live with the healthcare system the way it is, they would be quicker at fixing it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:10 PM   #3
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White House to implement Obamacare provisions


Covering all the bases ahead of a momentous Supreme Court ruling, the administration of President Barack Obama plans to move ahead with major parts of the president's health care law if its most controversial provision does not survive, according to veteran Democrats closely involved with the legislation.


Even if the requirement that nearly every U.S. resident have health insurance is declared unconstitutional, the remaining parts of the law would have far-reaching impact, putting coverage within reach of millions of uninsured people, laying new obligations on insurers and employers, and improving Medicare benefits even as payments to many service providers get scaled back.
The White House says Obama is confident the whole law will be upheld when the court issues its ruling in the next week or two, but officials will be ready for any outcome.
Not to mention all the other junk that was thrown into obamacare that has nothing to do with healthcare. Can't remember a lot of them, but they were mentioned when obamacare first came out and they all signed it without reading it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:15 PM   #4
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Can't remember a lot of them .....

every business selling x number or dollars in goods to another business had to 1099 them ....


[Gobberment thinks it is losing billions in unreported business transactions]

this would have meant Wawa would 1099 me for buying gas at their filling stations all yr, for my landscaping business



IIRC this was later repealed ?
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Can't remember a lot of them,
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every business selling x number or dollars in goods to another business had to 1099 them ....
[Gobberment thinks it is losing billions in unreported business transactions]
this would have meant Wawa would 1099 me for buying gas at their filling stations all yr, for my landscaping business
IIRC this was later repealed ?
It's my alzheimers, it'll pass.
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Whoops I posted in the wrong thread, this original post was supposed to go in the Obama asserts Executive Privilege thread. That is what happens when you use more than one tab. Sorry

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Whoops I posted in the wrong thread, this original post was supposed to go in the Obama asserts Executive Privilege thread. That is what happens when you use more than one tab. Sorry

you jacked me up as well ........

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I would certainly expect that they'd implement other provisions of the PPACA if those provisions aren't thrown out along with the individual mandate (if the mandate itself is thrown out). We have plenty of provisions in our laws that remain in force even though other provisions from the legislation that enacted them were ruled unConstitutional.
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I would certainly expect that they'd implement other provisions of the PPACA if those provisions aren't thrown out along with the individual mandate (if the mandate itself is thrown out). We have plenty of provisions in our laws that remain in force even though other provisions from the legislation that enacted them were ruled unConstitutional.
There is no severability clause in obamacare. That is one of the issues before the court. Without that clause, if part fails, all should fail.
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There is no severability clause in obamacare. That is one of the issues before the court. Without that clause, if part fails, all should fail.
We're talking about what would happen if the individual mandate was thrown out but some other parts of the law were not. The PPACA has neither a severability clause nor a non-severability clause, which means that the Court has to decide whether to throw out the whole law (or how much of it to throw out) if it finds that the mandate is unConstitutional. The Court took a significant amount of briefing and spent a considerable amount of oral argument time on that question. Entire laws aren't necessarily thrown out because one (or some) provision(s) in them is (are) struck down.
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