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Old 07-08-2012, 11:22 AM   #1
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Circumcision?

Michael Gerson: The crime of circumcision - The Washington Post

This article got me to thinking; why do we consider it 'genital mutilation' and wrong when it happens to girls and religious freedom when it is done to boys?

I used to reflexively accent it because I got snipped at birth. However, that article got me to thinking about it. It's ####ing barbaric.

Discuss.

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Old 07-08-2012, 11:35 AM   #2
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You guys need to step up your activism. Women ##### and moan about everything, same for gays and blacks. Men....eh. They just get their #### snipped and move on with life.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:38 AM   #3
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removing the foreskin from a penis is not the same as removing a clietrous
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:39 AM   #4
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ht/9696353.stm

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In the rural areas of Egypt, in Upper Egypt, however there is scant respect for the law. You hear the words "tradition", "custom", "honour" uttered like a mantra when people justify their decision to circumcise their daughters.

The belief there is that it is the female who is sexually rampant and that her sexual desire must be arrested at a young age, before she can disgrace the family.

If we tell a police officer in the local station, we will be reporting to an officer who believes in it and is probably doing it to his own daughters

Nivine Rasmi, anti-FGM campaigner
"It is important that she loses that part of her body that awakes sexual desire. If not, she may play with herself or ask a boy to touch this part for her, not specifically a stranger, but one of her cousins for instance, and she might enjoy it," Olla told me. "When she feels the pain of it she will be more careful about this part.

NOT EVEN REMOTELY THE SAME AS MALE CIRCUMCISION

..and I think this thread belongs in the religion forum...
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:42 AM   #5
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In the rural areas of Egypt, in Upper Egypt, however there is scant respect for the law. You hear the words "tradition", "custom", "honour" uttered like a mantra when people justify their decision to circumcise their daughters.

The belief there is that it is the female who is sexually rampant and that her sexual desire must be arrested at a young age, before she can disgrace the family.

If we tell a police officer in the local station, we will be reporting to an officer who believes in it and is probably doing it to his own daughters

Nivine Rasmi, anti-FGM campaigner
"It is important that she loses that part of her body that awakes sexual desire. If not, she may play with herself or ask a boy to touch this part for her, not specifically a stranger, but one of her cousins for instance, and she might enjoy it," Olla told me. "When she feels the pain of it she will be more careful about this part.

NOT EVEN REMOTELY THE SAME AS MALE CIRCUMCISION

..and I think this thread belongs in the religion forum...
Why, it's not usually a religious choice.
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:44 AM   #6
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..and I think this thread belongs in the religion forum...
I started there but, we oppose FGM on human rights grounds though it is a religious barbarity and support circumcision on religious grounds and argue it is not barbaric so, it IS a political issue, yes?
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:49 AM   #7
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I started there but, we oppose FGM on human rights grounds though it is a religious barbarity and support circumcision on religious grounds and argue it is not barbaric so, it IS a political issue, yes?
they are both still religious issues (or even traditions/cultural issues)... just because there is a law against FGM doesn't mean people will stop doing it.
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they are both still religious issues (or even traditions/cultural issues)... just because there is a law against FGM doesn't mean people will stop doing it.
Why do we accept one and not the other? It seems clear this is no reason to do it but religion.
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did you forget the sarcasm tag


you do not seriously believe one is equal to the other
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you do not seriously believe one is equal to the other
Why not?
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