Fareed Zakaria suspended from TIME & CNN

[Odessa78]

TIME Magazine has suspended Fareed Zakaria’s monthly column, after he plagiarized a paragraph of an April New Yorker piece, Dylan Byers reports:

“TIME accepts Fareed’s apology, but what he did violates our own standards for our columnists, which is that their work must not only be factual but original; their views must not only be their own but their words as well. As a result, we are suspending Fareed’s column for a month, pending further review.”

Newsbusters first reported the plagiarism earlier Friday. In his Aug. 20 column, “The Case for Gun Control,” Zakaria writes the following:

Adam Winkler, a professor of constitutional law at UCLA, documents the actual history in Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America. Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Other states soon followed: Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas (Texas!) explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.”

The paragraph is nearly identical to the following one from Jill Lepore’s April New Yorker piece, “Battleground America“:


http://freebeacon.com/suspended/

[cwo_ghwebb]

I read this earlier today, but haven't seen in on any television channels just yet. As a disclaimer, I really don't watch that much television (maybe an hour a day).

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Fareed is cellarboy's wet dream. That's why its taken a while for the shamefull story to come out..had to filter out to more mainstream outlets.

[aps45819]

Originally Posted by Odessa78

Adam Winkler, a professor of constitutional law at UCLA, documents the actual history in Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America. Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Other states soon followed: Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas (Texas!) explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.”

Interesting... I wonder if the book documents the racist nature of gun control from colonial Virginia with the first GC prohibiting a black person from possessing a gun to modern cities disarming the black population

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Odessa78

Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Other states soon followed: Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas (Texas!) explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.”]

uhh..helloo?.

51 of 80 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Not a very accurate book, very disappointing October 24, 2011
By John R. Lott Jr.
Format:Hardcover
The most disturbing thing about this book is how Winkler distorts what others have written. I will give one example of this. Clayton Cramer has written extensively on the history of concealed handgun laws. Winkler claims that Cramer didn't believe that concealed handgun laws were motivated by racism, but, according to Clayton, the laws in the late 1800s were in fact clearly motivated by racism. When I read this discussion I called up Clayton just to make sure that I hadn't completely gotten things backwards in my mind and he assured me that I hadn't. Clayton also rejected the notion that the concealed handgun laws adopted then were done as a way of "reducing public violence" as Winkler writes. It is hard to read Clayton's work and get these things so backwards. You can disagree with Clayton and explain those disagreements, but don't claim that he wrote the opposite of what he actually wrote. I hope that I am wrong, but this discussion comes across as an attempt to separate gun control from its racist past in the South.
The book also does Clayton a real disservice by completely ignoring his role the Bellesiles episode.
From the first hand knowledge that I have about the Heller and McDonald cases, it is very clear that Adam also got much of that recent history wrong.
The book's discussion of my own work on concealed handguns is littered with inaccuracies, but one can see what Winkler does to Cramer as a warning for how facts can be reversed in this book. At best he didn't read the first edition of More Guns, Less Crime very carefully (he doesn't cite either the second and third editions) -- this is only a problem given that he is writing about the debate over my research.
I recently debated Adam on KPCC, a public radio station in Southern California. A copy of the interview as well as some of my comments on a few obviously incorrect claims by Adam are available on my website here [...]

John Lott's review from Amazon.com

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

uhh..helloo?.

......and your answer is "everyone should have one", right?

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Giantone

......and your answer is "everyone should have one", right?

uh..WTF did you just say??

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

uh..WTF did you just say??

Oh,hell here we go with that decafe thing again.

at least one of each of the following;

AK / AR

Sub Gun Mac 10, Uzi, MP5

Battle Rifle - M14, FN/FAL, G3

Grenade Launcher - RPG, M203, Mk 19

Handgun - 1911, Glock, SIG etc

Hand Grenades ....

APC or Tank if they can afford it

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be Convenience Store


the 2 Amendment is NOT about Sporting / Hunting - but defending you and your neighbors against Gov Oppression and Tyranny - you should be armed with the same weapons the Military has