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Old 12-03-2012, 12:50 PM   #11
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I guess Progressives would prefer we all lived in the 'Monroe Republic' where only the Gov. is allowed to OWN Weapons .... and you are shot if you are found in position of one ....






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columnist: Second amendment to blame for kc chiefs player's murder/suicide


today, columnist jason whitlock of fox sports and formerly of the kansas city star, blamed the second amendment to the united state constitution for the murder/suicide of jovan belcher, linebacker for the kansas city chiefs. Calling for the nfl to have cancelled the chiefs’ sunday game, whitlock wrote:
i would argue that your rationalizations speak to how numb we are in this society to gun violence and murder. We’ve come to accept our insanity. We’d prefer to avoid seriously reflecting upon the absurdity of the prevailing notion that the second amendment somehow enhances our liberty rather than threatens it.

How many young people have to die senselessly? How many lives have to be ruined before we realize the right to bear arms doesn’t protect us from a government equipped with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks and nuclear weapons?

Our current gun culture simply ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy, and that more convenience-store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead.
whitlock never lays responsibility for jovan belcher’s murder of his 22-year-old girlfriend and his suicide at the feet of jovan belcher. In fact, he describes belcher as “a 25-year-old kid,” which is simply asinine – at age 25, you are no longer a “kid.” you are a man, with real responsibilities – belcher had a three-month-old child. But whitlock blames the culture, blames football (because “young men play a violent game”), blames everybody but belcher, and says we’re all capable “of the wickedness that exploded inside jovan belcher.”

“what i believe is, if he didn’t possess/own a gun, he and kassandra perkins would both be alive today,” wrote whitlock. That’s silly. If belcher wanted to kill his girlfriend and then himself, he didn’t need a gun to do it. And no matter how much whitlock propounds that “handguns do not enhance our safety,” kasandra perkins would have had a much better shot at life if she’d been the one with the handgun.

Ps: This is hardly the first time whitlock has put forward an idiotic opinion.

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bob costas exploits nfl murder/suicide to take our guns

we saw it after that terrible movie theatre shooting in colorado back in july, and now we're seeing it with the tragic murder/suicide involving kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. Damn logic, damn facts, damn waiting for a little something known as an investigation -- we have a tragedy, we have a gun, and now we have yet another opportunity to push an agenda meant to strip americans of their god-given second amendment rights.

Last night during nbc's nfl telecast, bob costas did something the nfl has always been very good about avoiding -- inserting politics into what americans of all political stripes see as one of the few remaining escapes from the divisive partisanship that seems to infect everything these days. Taking advantage of a captive halftime audience, costas sucker punched millions with a left-wing sermon about gun control. The fact that costas does this while god bless america can be heard in the background is not an irony that should be lost on anyone:

[video at link]

we all know the logical arguments against costas' illogical stupidity...

If you’re determined enough to murder your girlfriend and commit suicide, you don’t need a gun to murder your girlfriend and commit suicide.

Maybe if the girlfriend had a gun she'd be alive today.

Just like prohibition can’t stop people who want drugs from getting drugs, all anti-gun laws do is ensure that the law-abiding are at a disadvantage against criminals who know their victims are unarmed.

Every day people in this country are killed at the hands of cars, knives, and alcohol. No one on the left wants to ban or put waiting periods and harsh restrictions on any of those. Every day people in this country die due to illegal drug use and illicit sex -- two kinds of behavior many on the left glamorize and encourage through popular culture and bowing before the likes of sandra fluke.

But our guns they want; and they want them so badly that literally before the bodies at the scene of some awful tragedy have had time to cool, the likes of an nbc, bob costas or piers morgan refuse to wait to exploit murder and loss and grief with their illogical, unconstitutional, and un-american emotional appeals aimed at the only line of defense between tyranny, anarchy, and personal safety -- an armed citizenry.

Leftists like costas and piers don’t give a damn about the dead or those grieving the dead. And they surely don't care about saving lives, or they would be just as strident and insufferable when it came to alcohol and illicit sex. This debate has only and ever been about control.

Guns represent, and, most importantly, defend that one thing leftists just can't stand: American individualism. Somewhere in the left's dna is a gene that works like a warning signal that goes off every time something gets in the way of or comes off as a threat against the hive. You can't completely control someone holding a gun, therefore guns must be bad.

Like every other leftist who has and will exploit this awful tragedy, costas doesn’t want to save lives, he wants to control us -- he wants to strip us of the liberty he finds so messy and troubling. If that's not it, where are the half-time speeches every time a gun saves the life of a would-be victim? Where are the insufferably smug editorials with every study released that proves fewer violent crimes occur in communities where the bad guys know the citizens are more likely to be armed?


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Old 12-03-2012, 12:57 PM   #12
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When I heard that #### from Costas, I wanted to shoot the ####ing TV.

Luckily I'd left my handgun in the bathroom, so I settled for throwing socks at it instead.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:19 PM   #13
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When I heard that #### from Costas, I wanted to shoot the ####ing TV.

Luckily I'd left my handgun in the bathroom, so I settled for throwing socks at it instead.
You keep your gun in the bathr... nevermind
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:29 PM   #14
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Thank you but, it's not so. A bunch of people on here can say what I said in 50,000 words in only a few sentences.

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Yeah, but you made it last longer and better for everybody.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:23 PM   #15
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I actually like Jason Whitlock. Most of the time I don't agree with him, but I like him because he takes on social issues in sports and most importantly....

when he deals with social issues he tends to make arguments...

I guess that is a commentary on how bad sportswriters are, that most of them just speak in terms of conclusions when they write about social issues, whereas Whitlock at least makes argument. You may not agree with his reasoning...in this case I don't, I think Whitlock is overlooking the fact that there is a huge black market in guns.... but for the most part he makes arguments.

And it wasn't this article, that made me gain my opinion of Whitlock. It was articles where he attacked the entitlement culture of black culture (hes a black liberal---and articles like where he called out John Thompson's son for using the race card when he was fired).

As for Whitlock's article, he grew up poor and black in the ghetto (he was a D1 Football player and majored in journalism, which is how he ended up a sports writer). He likely saw more violent crime up close than the vast majority of us. There is no hunting in urban environments but there is a lot of violence so its understandable that somebody who lived through his life experiences has the view he does. Again, I think he is wrong, he totally overlooks the black market for guns that criminals will always use. But in the community Whitlock grew up in guns were probably more about power and less about freedom which is how guns were viewed more rural areas or even urban areas without bad violent crime.

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Old 12-04-2012, 06:09 AM   #16
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I guess Progressives would prefer we all lived in the 'Monroe Republic' where only the Gov. is allowed to OWN Weapons .... and you are shot if you are found in position of one ....
Now wait a minute! Let's not forget about some other very important people that need armed security like Rosie O'Donnell.

I just wonder if Costas has any kind of armed security.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #17
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I actually like Jason Whitlock. Most of the time I don't agree with him, but I like him because he takes on social issues in sports and most importantly....

when he deals with social issues he tends to make arguments...

I guess that is a commentary on how bad sportswriters are, that most of them just speak in terms of conclusions when they write about social issues, whereas Whitlock at least makes argument. You may not agree with his reasoning...in this case I don't, I think Whitlock is overlooking the fact that there is a huge black market in guns.... but for the most part he makes arguments.

And it wasn't this article, that made me gain my opinion of Whitlock. It was articles where he attacked the entitlement culture of black culture (hes a black liberal---and articles like where he called out John Thompson's son for using the race card when he was fired).

As for Whitlock's article, he grew up poor and black in the ghetto (he was a D1 Football player and majored in journalism, which is how he ended up a sports writer). He likely saw more violent crime up close than the vast majority of us. There is no hunting in urban environments but there is a lot of violence so its understandable that somebody who lived through his life experiences has the view he does. Again, I think he is wrong, he totally overlooks the black market for guns that criminals will always use. But in the community Whitlock grew up in guns were probably more about power and less about freedom which is how guns were viewed more rural areas or even urban areas without bad violent crime.
And about two hours ago he was on Kornheiser. Kornheiser said he was not against the 2nd Amendment but decried the ease with which handguns can be acquired. Whitlock stated in the middle of Kornheiser's statement: "I am". Tony gave him a chance to retract. He said it again: "I AM against it. The 2nd Amendment has outlived its usefulness.". I turned the radio off. Didn't want to put my foot through my company vehicle dashboard.
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I actually like Jason Whitlock. Most of the time I don't agree with him, but I like him because he takes on social issues in sports and most importantly....

when he deals with social issues he tends to make arguments...

I guess that is a commentary on how bad sportswriters are, that most of them just speak in terms of conclusions when they write about social issues, whereas Whitlock at least makes argument. You may not agree with his reasoning...in this case I don't, I think Whitlock is overlooking the fact that there is a huge black market in guns.... but for the most part he makes arguments.

And it wasn't this article, that made me gain my opinion of Whitlock. It was articles where he attacked the entitlement culture of black culture (hes a black liberal---and articles like where he called out John Thompson's son for using the race card when he was fired).

As for Whitlock's article, he grew up poor and black in the ghetto (he was a D1 Football player and majored in journalism, which is how he ended up a sports writer). He likely saw more violent crime up close than the vast majority of us. There is no hunting in urban environments but there is a lot of violence so its understandable that somebody who lived through his life experiences has the view he does. Again, I think he is wrong, he totally overlooks the black market for guns that criminals will always use. But in the community Whitlock grew up in guns were probably more about power and less about freedom which is how guns were viewed more rural areas or even urban areas without bad violent crime.
This is what is maddening to me about Jason. He DOES make arguments but, that's the thing.

He has the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to argue whatever dumb ass, illogical point he'd like.

There's a reason that is so. George Washington did not try to reason with the British. He shot them.

This is CORE. This is right after free speech in his, my, all our rights. Gun control got its start in racism, to specifically keep blacks from being less equal. I would LOVE to debate with him why he thinks the second amendment has gone out of style. Just why is it that there is so much violence. Why, why, why?

THAT is an argument to have.
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And about two hours ago he was on Kornheiser. Kornheiser said he was not against the 2nd Amendment but decried the ease with which handguns can be acquired. Whitlock stated in the middle of Kornheiser's statement: "I am". Tony gave him a chance to retract. He said it again: "I AM against it. The 2nd Amendment has outlived its usefulness.". I turned the radio off. Didn't want to put my foot through my company vehicle dashboard.
My question is, Who gives a hoot what a sports reporter thinks about the 2nd Amendement, and why does he think he matters?
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:36 PM   #20
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When I was stationed in Texas a guy drug his girlfriend out of their car and threw her off an overpass into traffic below, then jumped himself killing the both of them.

I thought the solution was obvious, overpasses should have been banned.
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