Obama Aide Said ‘There’d Still Be Slavery’ With To

[GURPS (Premo)]

MSNBC’s Chuck Todd Relays ‘Depressing’ Convo: Obama Aide Said ‘There’d Still Be Slavery’ With Today’s Republicans



MSNBC’s Chuck Todd appeared as a panelist on “Morning Joe” Monday, relating a statement from what he described as a “very smart” White House aide.

After a discussion of TIME columnist Joe Klein’s recent article– in which he argued that Abraham Lincoln would “cut” deals for the greater good and Obama must be a similar “master politician”– Todd weighed in.

“You’re going to like this,” he began. “So, I threw the Lincoln analogy at a close aide to the president last week, and he said, ‘You know, with this Republican– with the way politics of Washington are today– there’d still be slavery. Lincoln wouldn’t have been able to navigate the polarization between the media, between this…’”

Rather than condemn the comment as inaccurate or incendiary, Chuck contributed: “It was an interesting and depressing observation from this very smart White House aide.”

are they deluded ....... really Republicans today, would still have blacks as SLAVES

[PsyOps (Premo)]

I’m telling you, they won and they are going to shove it in your face every chance they get. They can make all the incendiary comment under the sun and it wont matter. They have nothing to lose. Obama has been running around using the ‘hostage’ word with the ‘fiscal cliff’ deal. There is more to come and they will pull no punches in vilifying the GOP.

The president called for more civility?

[mamatutu]

Originally Posted by GURPS

are they deluded ....... really Republicans today, would still have blacks as SLAVES

The Obama aide's comment was "very smart"; because even though it is not true, the 47% will believe it because a Dem said it. Abe Lincoln was a Repub; the Dems started the KKK; but, the Obama admin rewrites history as it suits them. JMO. I always find it interesting trivia that Martin Luther King was a Republican, and Sen. R. Byrd (D) W. VA (longest serving) was a member of the KKK.

[FreedomFan]

There still is slavery today. Income taxes and prison labor are two examples.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by FreedomFan

There still is slavery today. Income taxes and prison labor are two examples.

Prison labor?

[FreedomFan]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

Prison labor?

Yup. Slavery happens anytime you are deprived fully or partially of the fruits of your labor. It matters not that a jail sentence is being served; it is no less slavery.

[philibusters]

Originally Posted by FreedomFan

Yup. Slavery happens anytime you are deprived fully or partially of the fruits of your labor. It matters not that a jail sentence is being served; it is no less slavery.

If that is slavery, then all taxes are slavery because people are being denied the fruits of their labor.

You can play with the definition of slavery, and in some ways prison life may be somewhat analogous to slavery, but when the average person talks about slavery they are not talking about being in prison.

[FreedomFan]

Originally Posted by philibusters

If that is slavery, then all taxes are slavery because people are being denied the fruits of their labor.

I agree. Did you see my first post to this thread?

You can play with the definition of slavery, and in some ways prison life may be somewhat analogous to slavery, but when the average person talks about slavery they are not talking about being in prison.

I am not "playing" with the definition nor am I talking about "prison life". I am very specifically talking about prison labor to make money for for-Profit concerns.

One may say they are OK with this form of slavery because they are being punished. I do not agree but I will not argue. That is your right. But to say it is not slavery is to play mental gymnastics.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by FreedomFan

Yup. Slavery happens anytime you are deprived fully or partially of the fruits of your labor. It matters not that a jail sentence is being served; it is no less slavery.

Slavery: the state of a person who is a chattel of another

Chattel: an item of tangible movable or immovable property except real estate and things (as buildings) connected with real property

Those who are serving time in prison are not ‘chattel’. Slaves are held against their will, and are owned by someone. Those who commit crimes are NOT held against their will; they have committed a crime that they knew had consequences. Slaves are not paying the price for doing something other than being born in the wrong circumstances. Convicts are paying a price for crimes against society. With criminals there is a payoff, a monetary exchange for breaking the law. That is not slavery.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by mamatutu

The Obama aide's comment was "very smart"; because even though it is not true, the 47% will believe it because a Dem said it. Abe Lincoln was a Repub; the Dems started the KKK; but, the Obama admin rewrites history as it suits them. JMO. I always find it interesting trivia that Martin Luther King was a Republican, and Sen. R. Byrd (D) W. VA (longest serving) was a member of the KKK.

Yeah, caught that. The Republican Party was *started* by abolitionists - it was created largely over the issue of slavery. The first black members of Congress were all Republicans, and you should SEE some of the campaign posters back then from the Democratic Party - they'd be sued into oblivion today.