Christie Needs a Diet

[BOP]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

In with a disaster relief bill. The freaking nerve of these people.

Sorry, I'd have voted against it too and Christie is just playing politics bull#### because he knows damn good and well why that bill wasn't passed.

Same thing Weiner was doing when he had that meltdown and accused Republicans of not caring about 1st responders when the original 9/11 1st responder bill was so laden with pork (especially benefiting illegal aliens) that his own party wouldn't vote for it.

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

One of the greatest answers of all time; "Why are we doing something that makes no sense?"

"We did it before! They got some! What about me?"

Leadership.

Its a little deeper than that, but yes, thats the jist. Again, we may not like fema, or the current system, but it is what it is. There is a precedent for the FED to step in and help out. chrisite has a responsibility to his constiuents to at least try to get the same kind of help for them.

Personally i think FEMA is one of the agencies we could do away with, and i certainly dont agree with paying to rebuild houses in flood plains or on cliffs. However, i can understand NJ, NY, and CT expecting similar treatment to previous disaster victims.

[DynaDink]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

Oh poor baby. Face it, if you wait for the government to help you, you are SOL. Christie has the power to make things happen. He will get his money no matter what. Time for Christie to get creative and make things happen instead of cry with his hand out. Has zero to do with people living in tents.

Hopefully you see my finger in your face. I have friends that go up there to help and I have contributed what little money I have that the government wants for birth control to the cause.

Grow up and stop waiting for the government to fix your problems.

You are so out of touch with the situation there. Christie's hands are tied financially. The NJ disaster relief fund is depleted meaning THE MONEY IS GONE. You say this has nothing to do with people living in tents? I dare you to go to Ortley Beach and speak your kind of ilk to the residents there. You would be missing a few teeth afterward. Jersey Strong, look it up. Douche.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by FreedomFan

I believe Bushie had the neocon agenda foisted upon him, but I don't think he really believed that which he practiced. That's why he had John Bolton and Paul Wolfowitz among others.

Nope. Bush is a Churchill-ian and neo-con interventionism is a part of their DNA.
That's the thing we missed during the 2000 primary which explains everything he did. He IS a neocon and that's what neo cons do; big government that serves the interests of big business.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by thatguy

Its a little deeper than that, but yes, thats the jist. Again, we may not like fema, or the current system, but it is what it is. There is a precedent for the FED to step in and help out. chrisite has a responsibility to his constiuents to at least try to get the same kind of help for them.

Personally i think FEMA is one of the agencies we could do away with, and i certainly dont agree with paying to rebuild houses in flood plains or on cliffs. However, i can understand NJ, NY, and CT expecting similar treatment to previous disaster victims.

Then, if you really mean that, you should be opposed to this. The time to get rid of bad government is not after we've accessed more of it. The time to argue against FEMA is now and for the reasons I stated; because NJ is responsible for their zoning, their insurance requirements, their development rules and NOW is the time for them to fix them to avoid this in the future. Not guarantee it happens again. This is just like the auto bailout, the stimulus and their bastard daddy, TARP; the political pressure is only there to do big things, to fix big things, when there is a serious problem. Otherwise, there will ALWAYS be a reason to do it again; we did it before!

My dad long ago told me two wrongs don't make a right. That goes for three and four and so on as well. You make the right decisions at the right time, tough as that may be, everything WILL be better down the road, you recover for real. You make the wrong decisions at the wrong time, you institutionalize the problems. Auto, TARP, Stimulus. They fail because they worked; Too Big To Fail. Nothing gets fixed, everything gets kicked down the road.

THAT is the true test of leadership and Obama fails it, I think, on purpose and Christie is failing it now. Crying in his diaper and flinging poo is not leadership.

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Then, if you really mean that, you should be opposed to this. The time to get rid of bad government is not after we've accessed more of it. The time to argue against FEMA is now and for the reasons I stated; because NJ is responsible for their zoning, their insurance requirements, their development rules and NOW is the time for them to fix them to avoid this in the future. Not guarantee it happens again. This is just like the auto bailout, the stimulus and their bastard daddy, TARP; the political pressure is only there to do big things, to fix big things, when there is a serious problem. Otherwise, there will ALWAYS be a reason to do it again; we did it before!

My dad long ago told me two wrongs don't make a right. That goes for three and four and so on as well. You make the right decisions at the right time, tough as that may be, everything WILL be better down the road, you recover for real. You make the wrong decisions at the wrong time, you institutionalize the problems. Auto, TARP, Stimulus. They fail because they worked; Too Big To Fail. Nothing gets fixed, everything gets kicked down the road.

THAT is the true test of leadership and Obama fails it, I think, on purpose and Christie is failing it now. Crying in his diaper and flinging poo is not leadership.

Me being against something and me understanding the other sides point are two different things. Comprehending the other sides point is not the same as agreeing with it.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by thatguy

Me being against something and me understanding the other sides point are two different things. Comprehending the other sides point is not the same as agreeing with it.

I understand bank robbers and can discuss why they do what they do. However, in doing so, I do try to make it clear I am opposed to bank robbers.

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

I understand bank robbers and can discuss why they do what they do. However, in doing so, I do try to make it clear I am opposed to bank robbers.

pretty sure i did, in this and other threads.

Again, we may not like fema, or the current system, but it is what it is.

Personally i think FEMA is one of the agencies we could do away with, and i certainly dont agree with paying to rebuild houses in flood plains or on cliffs. However, i can understand NJ, NY, and CT expecting similar treatment to previous disaster victims.

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

Standard Circle Jerkers seem to be claiming I am a MPD. Nice try.

Circle Jerk team could not provide valid references to Neocon ideology, The claim "I hate liberals" and the circle jerk team make up stuff about things I did not say (ie I was drunk or claimed to be Pen).

Hey, all is fair on the board and the reality is that the Circle Jerk team is just that, they lack good references and talk out their azz.

As for this thread, looks like the vote for the storm relief is on schedule as planned, when congress come back. The Chrissy fit did not accomplish much except for some grand standing.

Looks like the NY rep and NJ rep are not jumping to Chrissy's support.



King and other lawmakers who had been critical of Boehner quickly buried the hatchet with the Speaker after the meeting.

Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.) said he was now voting for Boehner for Speaker at a vote on Thursday after securing the promise of a Sandy vote during Wednesday's face-to-face meeting.

“We have gotten that solid commitment,” he said.

King said his anger at Boehner was now in the past.

“As far as I’m concerned that was a lifetime ago,” he told reporters. “The bottom line is we are getting the result that we need.”

Read more: Under pressure, Boehner agrees to hold two votes on Sandy relief funding - The Hill's On The Money

you are the one claiming that everyone who hands you your ass is an MPD

Originally Posted by JoeRider

Interesting. So it appears that MMDad, Hank, TOG, probably B Cubed and Dowhat are all the same person.

sounds like you and MMDad need to work that out. Since you cant admit that the others have provided references about their view of neocons, i assume that you cant admit your MPDs either

peep away

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

I see the CJT Captain has step to the plate. Nobody has handed me my azz. Again, a CJ distortion and make believe.

Looks like Boehner is still going to be speaker of the house.

sure looks like they have been to anyone who knows what a neocon is, or an MPD for that matter