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Old 01-28-2013, 05:17 PM   #51
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Benghazi... No one really knows the truth about how knew what in our government. People died, Hillary was deposed, and we still don't have the truth. And not person in our government will be held accountable for this outrageous level of incompetence. Hillary: ‘Terrorist attack, a protest gone wrong, four Americans still died so what damn difference does it make.” And the country la-dee-da reelects Obama to a second term. .
And the GOP is very likely, if not obviously, neck deep in this.

Or they are totally incompetent and refuse to take political advantage of a softball.

Did I really have to spell that one out for you???
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:22 PM   #52
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Fast and Furious… An American died because our government violated the law, and massive amounts of automatic weapons ended up in the hands of drug cartels. No one held accountable. And Americans don’t even seem to understand what a tragedy this is. And despite Americans dying at the hands of this inept administration, he got reelected.
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And where is the GOP national chair? Speaker Beohner? Leader McConnell? Hell, where is John McCain on this?

Why do you think they are so silent about it?

I know, I know. Terrified of how they may be portrayed in the media. Could ruin their chances of being voted most pliable.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:25 PM   #53
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Hurricane Sandy victims… People, months later are still without power freezing every day. Fund raisers and federal dollars pumped into that disaster and still people don’t have power; they can’t even get space heaters to stay warm. But Obama is propped up as a hero. Hell he was reelected because he and Christie managed to have a slobber fest over how they were going to fix the problem. And Americans were happy and moved along.
I'm an American. I am not happy.

Pop quiz;

What category storm was Sandy?

1? 2? 3? 4? 5?

Again, where is the GOP leadership?

I know, I know. Bowing to the media so they can get...uh...well...uhm...so the media will be nice to them...and...uh???

As far as I am concerned Christie just disqualified himself from the presidential sweepstakes and anyone who supports him simply wants more of what we have.

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:27 PM   #54
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I was referring to the rambling aspect of the post, not the content...
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:32 PM   #55
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And you think this is the doing of the GOP.
DHS, TSA, not one but two resurrections of Vietnam, Med Part D, The Patriot Act, the auto bailout, TARP.

Yeah, those are pretty much on the GOP.

You seem to somehow want that slate wiped clean when it comes to Obama doing the same stuff. Well, when one group of pigs stops eating long enough to disparage another group of pigs, I'm sorry, a biased media doesn't have much heavy lifting to do to 'get' the people to not pay much attention to the first group of pigs.

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:38 PM   #56
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Then how come every time I come up with a great idea on how to win the war of ideas you, basically, say "It can't be done!"?

The GOP will NOT, repeat, will NOT change unless and until they have to and that means losing and losing a lot and losing BIG. Look at the excuses now for Mitt and how close he was.

I don't have the answers. I just know doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results ain't gonna work. I mean, hell, people are already touting Rubio, a guy who is all talk and no resume.

If you don't have the answers then how are you claiming you've come up with great ideas? If you don't have the answers how can you disagree with me that the media is a major fact in 1) keep the GOP distracted with defending themselves and 2) convincing voters the GOP are nothing but a bunch of racist, bible thumping, gun toting, rednecks?

Psy: Let’s start a dialog on how we can get people off welfare. I believe we ought to cut spending on entitlements; especially welfare. We ought to create a system that focuses on educating our kids and getting parents involved in that process.

Press: So, you want to take money out of the pockets of the poor. You want to starve poor children. And most people on welfare are black. So you really just hate black people.

Psy: I’m trying to do what is in the best intere…

Press: No, what I heard was you want to starve black people. You hate black people.

Psy: How is wanting them to get edu….

Press: Racism is a blight on this country and you people on the right haven’t learned a thing about history.

Psy: So you’re not interested in talking about how we fix…

Press: How can we fix anything with close-minded bigots such as yourself?

Psy: I’m not a racist. I care…

Press: If you cared you wouldn’t be trying to take food out of the mouths of our poor. Your kind of hate isn’t welcome here.

See how it goes? I started off with trying to get my ideas out there and got put in a corner by having to defend myself as not being a racist. This is the tactic the left uses. And the GOP has been placed in a corner spending all its time defending themselves when they need to be getting a message out there. Look at what they did to Sarah Palin. A very viable candidate, and yet she was attacked on the most juvenile of things, never having the chance to defend her conservative ideals. I mean the focus became her inability to cite what newspaper she reads and a spoof on her on SNL. And this is the extent of what attracted voters attention. No one out there was saying “I want to hear what Sarah is about”. They were saying “She a dumb snarky bimbo that can see Russia from her backyard.” And do we need to get into what the media did to George Allen and his Macaca comment?

Conservatives just aren’t going to get a fair shake from the MSM.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:44 PM   #57
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DHS, TSA, not one but two resurrections of Vietnam, Med Part D, The Patriot Act, the auto bailout, TARP.

Yeah, those are pretty much on the GOP.

You seem to somehow want that slate wiped clean when it comes to Obama doing the same stuff. Well, when one group of pigs stops eating long enough to disparage another group of pigs, I'm sorry, a biased media doesn't have much heavy lifting to do to 'get' the people to not pay much attention to the first group of pigs.

So DHS, TSA, etc... are the reason's Obama won a second term? Obama, with a democrat congress did nothing about any of those, even though Obama was against them.

The rhetoric being slung around isn't even discussing those things. MSNBC spends 80% of their time calling the GOP a bunch of racists; not because they created the DHS, TSA, Med D, or The Patriot Act. The GOP are racist because they simply disagree with Obama (who is now in complete support of all those programs), and they want to starve the poor and elderly.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:15 AM   #58
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If you don't have the answers then how are you claiming you've come up with great ideas?
This is when you become overtly annoying. I think I have the answers; win debates, win the arguments and do it by recognizing what we'd done wrong, why it was wrong, use that to establish why the left is wrong and propose good and proper solutions, IE, constitutional ones.

YOU don't like it. Time after time after time. Therefore, I, clearly, don't have all the answers. The 'answers' would be ones folks find acceptable. So, we do more of the same and expect different results.

What you want to hear is the same garbage most of us want to hear; "It's not OUR fault! We meant well! It's the media! It's the D's! It's all the things we can't control therefore it's not our fault! The things we CAN control, well, there are good reasons we didn't do so good!"

I have the answers. Beat them. Beat them on principle. On being right.

That is not acceptable and I am coming to understand, if not accept, that.
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Larry: Let’s start a dialog on how we can get people off welfare. I believe we ought to cut spending on entitlements; especially welfare. We ought to create a system that focuses on educating our kids and getting parents involved in that process.

Press: So, you want to take money out of the pockets of the poor. You want to starve poor children. And most people on welfare are black. So you really just hate black people.

Larry: Let's look at results, not intentions. We know as fact that more money does not work and I would argue that focusing on money is demonstrably making things worse. Look at the facts, what we spend and what has happened.

Press: No, what I heard was you want to starve black people. You hate black people.

Larry: Actually, you ignoring the facts while claiming to care is, in my view, evil. If your solution, more money, not only does not work but makes things worse yet you want more of that, why do YOU hate black people?

Press: Racism is a blight on this country and you people on the right haven’t learned a thing about history.

Larry: And a good and responsible press can turn that around nearly over night by doing YOUR jobs properly.

Press: How can we fix anything with close-minded bigots such as yourself?

Larry: Well, for one, I can point out how you actually are the ones that hate folks because you support ideas that have not, do not and will not work because you refuse to report on the real problem and choose to play lap dog for a failed ideology.

Press: If you cared you wouldn’t be trying to take food out of the mouths of our poor. Your kind of hate isn’t welcome here.



See how it goes? "I started off with trying to get my ideas out there and got put in a corner by having to defend myself as not being a racist."
Yup, I see how it goes. We keep sending soul-less, passionless functionaries out to do a mans job; fight and fight to win. You put me in front of a camera, on the shows, I win. I beat them on the failures of their ideas and I win on mine.

But, few want to hear that even on here, a supposed conservative forum. Most on here want to blame the media and the Dems for beating our soul-ess, passionless functionaries who have no stomach for the fight let alone the will to win. But, hey, that CAN'T be our fault for whom we choose to represent us! That damn weather is COLD!!!

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Yup, I see how it goes. We keep sending soul-less, passionless functionaries out to do a mans job; fight and fight to win. You put me in front of a camera, on the shows, I win. I beat them on the failures of their ideas and I win on mine.

But, few want to hear that even on here, a supposed conservative forum. Most on here want to blame the media and the Dems for beating our soul-ess, passionless functionaries who have no stomach for the fight let alone the will to win. But, hey, that CAN'T be our fault for whom we choose to represent us! That damn weather is COLD!!!

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Why aren’t you running? Since everyone else out there has no soul. Get in front of those cameras and get your message out there. I’m frustrated on two fronts: 1) you’re right that many of our politicians have no fight in them and 2) you keep claiming you have the answers yet limit them to this forum. You need to get yourself out there. NOW!

I can’t say it enough, we can only vote for who is willing to run. You can’t force someone out there; someone like you. People like me are dying for someone with real conservative values and with the guts to take on the liberal media and attack machine. And someone with charisma and passion. And that someone is you Larry.

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