Too Big To Fail explained...

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Perception??? There is no perception. TARP is real and so is Dodd/Frank.

It was bizarre watching Hank Paulson walk out to the cameras with a different story each time of what they were doing and why. I suppose if there is one person who believed they were too big to fail, it would have to be President Bush given he's the one who ordered it so and the one who could have stopped it and the person who excused it all by claiming to 'normally' be a free market 'kind of guy'.

Is that the answer you were seeking?

The ‘too to fail’ belief is a perception. No company is too big to fail. They should’ve been allowed to succeed or fail on their own merits, not on the government’s or the tax payers. I’m not looking for any particular answer. When I watched the movie I saw a different parallel than you did. You saw corporate greed and corporate America owning our government. I saw an aimless people willing to buy any variety of snake oil that would allow them to shed responsible decision making off their backs and on to someone else’s. In the case of REAL society, this country has decided it serves their best interest cling on to our form of ‘Brawndo’ called Obamacare, TARP, Stimulus, and a plethora of other massive government programs aimed at fixing all of our woes. I gave you two videos that sort of exemplify a country that is willing to bow to someone else because they have resorted to being helpless without them.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

I gave you my opinion on what Idiocracy looks like to me in our society today:

In your typical fashion you rejected my opinion because it didn’t fit your narrow definition of what this thread should be about. It’s a stupid movie that obviously had different meanings to each of us.

Your opinion is that it is all about government giving everything to people and people wanting everything handed to them. You illustrated and reinforced that view with some clips of Obam-ites in action.

I retorted that no, it's not about government and it's not about giving. Far from it. It is all about the excess's of corporatism, of Too Big To Fail's obvious future. It is ALL about capitalism, a theme repeated time and again in the movie. Heck, it IS the theme. To further illustrate that view, I pointed out that even at the doctors, there is a CASH register on the doctors desk and, even further, he's the person you discuss the bill with. And, further than that, corporations don't run government behind the scenes; they just BUY it. Every scene is about advertising and corporations.

Now, if rejecting your view is bothersome, if you'd rather have your feelings validated, maybe a participation button or something, I'm sure Brawndo can come up with something to make you feel better. However, you will still have missed the entire point of the movie; it's not government. It's corporations. So, calling it a stupid movie when you don't even get what it is about pretty much makes you a character from the movie.

And makes my point. And scares hell out of me.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

The ‘too to fail’ belief is a perception. No company is too big to fail. .

Do you know anything about Dodd/Frank, at all?????

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Do you know anything about Dodd/Frank, at all?????

I find it particularly interesting that you blame Corporate America and their greed and ownership of our government but cite government people and policies (Paulson, Bush, Dodd-Frank) as being the problem.

[Password]

Troubled Asset Relief Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.....

On December 19, 2008, President Bush used his executive authority to declare that TARP funds may be spent on any program that Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson,[18] deemed necessary to alleviate the financial crisis.

people like to forget that this bailout mess was created by the republican party.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Your opinion is that it is all about government giving everything to people and people wanting everything handed to them. You illustrated and reinforced that view with some clips of Obam-ites in action.

I'll try this one more time:

Originally Posted by PsyOps

But who was really trying to sell it to us? I don’t really care. It’s a lie and Americans need to recognize it and reject it or the proverbial can will just keep rolling down the road.

Whether it's government or corporate America doesn't really matter. I'm trying to say that none of this is possible without a complacent PEOPLE willing to give up their better judgment and self reliance to something they view as bigger than them (THE COLLECTIVE PEOPLE).

What our REAL Idiocracy is succumbing to is looking toward the government to fix our problems: TARP, Stimulus, Dodd-Frank, free Obama phone, Free Obama Money, Obama gonna pay my mortgage...

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Password

Troubled Asset Relief Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



people like to forget that this bailout mess was created by the republican party.

You do realize democrats controlled both chambers of congress during TARP and Stimulus?

In the house TARP was introduced by Patrick Kennedy (D). It was overwhelmingly supported by democrats and not by republicans.

In the Senate TARP support was mixed.

Stimulus was introduced by David Obey (D) under a democrat controlled congress.

In the house Stimulus got not one vote from a republican.

In the Senate Stimulus got not one vote from republicans.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Password

Troubled Asset Relief Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



people like to forget that this bailout mess was created by the republican party.

Really? Which people? Did you just show up to this party?