Sen. Mike V. Miller, felon...

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Questions about gun control fingerprinting mandate continue - CapitalGazette.com: Government

Senate President Thomas V. Mike Miller will buy a gun in Virginia before submitting to a state mandated fingerprinting in Maryland.

Miller said Friday “he doesn’t care for” a provision in Gov. Martin O’Malley’s proposed gun-control plan requiring fingerprinting for gun licensees.

“I’ve never been fingerprinted as of yet, I’m 70 years old,” Miller said. “If I personally were to go to buy a gun, I’d go to Virginia before I’d give my fingerprints to any government agency, but that’s just my personal opinion.”

You can't do that without breaking the new law.


PLEASE contact your reps, any of them, all of them, and tell then you've had enough of this crap.

Miller, Senate President, needs some help to end this horrible, inane, misguided and useless bill.

It is easy to do; civic action email system

Do it! Do it now! Even if you aren't real big on guns, if this piece of #### passes it will serve, like any other bad law, as a blueprint of how to violate something you DO care about.

Another example of YOUR gummint having deep thoughts;

Senate Panel Chair Brian Frosh, D-Montgomery, was among the amendment’s opponents. Frosh believes fingerprinting is one of the most important aspects of the bill.

He stressed how a fingerprinting requirement deters “straw purchases,” which involves people having others buy guns for them — those guns are often used in crimes.

Frost offered an example. A boyfriend, who plans to rob a bank, gives his girlfriend $500 to buy a gun. When she encounters a Maryland law requiring fingerprinting, she’s reluctant.

“She says, wait a minute, I’ve got to give my fingerprints to the State Police, I’ve got to apply to the State Police for a license that has my picture on it? And then I’m going to go buy a gun and give it to you?,” Frosh said. “I think you’re a great guy, but I don’t love you that much.”

I listened to HOURS of folks obliterate this absurd line of reasoning.

It is ALREADY against the law to do a straw purchase. They just don't much enforce it.

It is laughable that someone who is going to help her FELON boyfriend rob a bank as well as break the law buying a gun for him is going to much give a damn about yet another law.

You can NOT regulate behavior by regulating tools.

ACT. Please. Do it for yourself, to stop the next bad law.

Do it.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

I listened to HOURS of folks obliterate this absurd line of reasoning.

And despite all these folks, all that time, all the efforts to assemble and voice your concerns, the bill will still pass. Although I have and will continue to write our reps, the conventional thinking is these pinheads do not care what people like you and I think. I’m certain they have a special shredder – paid for by you and me – for the expressed purpose of destroying any concerns about our liberties and constitution.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

And to add to is, the only way to get around these oppressive laws is to leave the state. Which I intend to do.

[Gilligan (Premo)]

I took the time to respond to the on-line poll at Miller's office.

Fact is..he and the other a$$-licking liberals he is in bed with could give a flying fawk about what we think.

[bcp (Premo)]

I have come to the conclusion that the day we retire, we will be leaving Maryland behind us.
I will be moving to a state that is more in line with the constitution and the preservation of this country.
Taking that into consideration, I personally do not give a rats ass about Maryland gun laws, I have mine, they are not registered, they will not be registered, I will not have my fingerprints taken in order to keep them.

when the revolution comes, and it will, states like maryland will be on the wrong side of the fight, therefore, I think it a great thing to just let them pass all these silly laws regarding guns.
Their smart ass laws are going to disarm the law abiding public, and for those that do own guns, there will be a paper trail right to their front door.
Maryland will offer no fight when the time comes.

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

I have come to the conclusion that the day we retire, we will be leaving Maryland behind us.
.

I came to that conclusion probably a decade ago. MD is such a business-unfriendly environment to start with..and then you pile on the incredible tax load..silly property values....piss poor infrastructures that is so overloaded..

Raised on a Maryland farm, I was ...but the state I was raised in is nothing but a fond memory. It's gone. It's demise started in the 60s.

I am very fortunate..fortunate that my business is one that can exist anywhere.

[Tilted (Premo)]

I listened to a lot of the committee debate on amendments Thursday night. I don't know where I'd start if I were going to discuss it in any detail, and I'm not going to try to do that.

I'll just say that it made me kinda sad, and I rarely (anymore, anyway) allow anything to make me sad for more than the fleeting moment that it takes to metabolize that sadness into useful or satiating emotional sugar. More to the point, in listening to it I struggled not to lose more faith in my fellow man - in their ability to reason, in their regard for others, in their humility, in their intellectual honesty, in their restraint of their unhealthier instincts. It's getting harder and harder to be optimistic about the current state of human nature.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tilted

I listened to a lot of the committee debate on amendments Thursday night. I don't know where I'd start if I were going to discuss it in any detail, and I'm not going to try to do that.

I'll just say that it made me kinda sad, and I rarely (anymore, anyway) allow anything to make me sad for more than the fleeting moment that it takes to metabolize that sadness into useful or satiating emotional sugar. More to the point, in listening to it I struggled not to lose more faith in my fellow man - in their ability to reason, in their regard for others, in their humility, in their intellectual honesty, in their restraint of their unhealthier instincts. It's getting harder and harder to be optimistic about the current state of human nature.

Here. This will cheer you up.

In sitting there ALL EFFING day on February 6, in addition to the struggles you mention above, I did very much get a solid understanding of the legislative process AS IT IS and I could easily and readily envision committees past, even as far back as our founders, going through the legislation sausage making, the procedures and order, the tedium, the simple democratic process, creaking and cranking along and it dawned on me that this, no matter how outraged one may be about second amendment rights, is NOTHING new. Even a cursory knowledge of our history, our laws, a few years as an adult seeing how things do, and don't, work in the real world, how constituencies, be it a clique on the playground, academia, business guys playing golf, factions in the warehouse or office, this is nothing new. It really isn't.

Patrick Henry is noted for 'give me liberty or give me death!' not because he was among a mass of very like minded folks. He is noteworthy because so few people are so clear cut in their mindset, their purpose, their principles. The vast majority, then as now, are more like "Give me liberty or give me death...or give me some of this and/or some of that and, perhaps, if you will do this for me I could do that for you and then, after lunch, we can kinda think about it, see what else it needs and then..." Most absolutists get death VERY early on.

So, even though yet another right we may have rather romantically thought absolute goes by the boards, that's really what it is, just another drip or drab to be offset here or there in the mind numbingly dull process that we accept as our governance with all it's horrid flaws.

In short, we still haven't yet been pushed, or pushed ourselves, to the point where armed and active rebellion is preferable.

Don't you feel better?

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

In short, we still haven't yet been pushed, or pushed ourselves, to the point where armed and active rebellion is preferable.

Don't you feel better?

That sure made me feel better. I think I'll go pull some funds out of my ammo investment fund and get drunk instead.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

That sure made me feel better. I think I'll go pull some funds out of my ammo investment fund and get drunk instead.

I'm here to help.

I mean, really, think of all we've LONG given up. I'm wondering if the camel's back has been broke for quite some time. This issue is a non brainer of no brainers and yet we're going to actually do SB 281?????