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Old 11-07-2002, 08:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Now, if your gun was stolen, I would hope that you or your brother would file a police report about it (if you don't you're pretty stupid.) The cops will enter the gun's data into the NCIC database. It's SOP with most police agencies (including the MSP) to run any criminal's gun's serial number through NCIC to see if it were stolen. The same would apply here. Once a BF match was made, the SN would be run through NCIC and if it was ever reported stolen it would notify the cops of that fact. If the gun had never been entered into the BF system, there would be no record and the cops would be out of luck.
Of course my brother or I would file a police report about it. Now, when you say "cops will enter the gun's data" , how would I know or remember the serial number 20 years later? Would you remember the gun dealer's name 20 years later? how many people keep papers in the file? Oh yeah I would be able to describe what kind of gun it is but that's it. It would be great if everyone keep some kind of papers with serial numbers in the file after so many years. How realistic is that?

I do like the idea of BF very much. I am just looking at it logically and want to debate on it. I just want to see how this idea comes along.
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Old 11-07-2002, 08:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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One things that is kinda funny is the whole idea behind mandatory gun training in schools. I'm not really for that, but what is funny is that people rush their kids out to drivers ed schools like there is no tomorrow.. The kid has a much higher chance of getting killed while in the car than by a gun. Yet they don't see a problem with that. Gotta love the American logic.
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Old 11-08-2002, 05:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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SeaRide, the cops would get the data from the bullet ro shell casing that was received and matched to the gun that you had bought. Let's say you buy a new gun that's been through the BF process, and it gets stolen 20 years from now and is used in a crime. The police get the bullet and/or a casing, and are able to match the bullet to your gun. They first will run the SN through NCIC, and provided you reported it stolen, it will show up as being stolen from you on Nov 8, 2022. The police will know you didn't have the gun, so they can contact the local cops who are investigating the theft and see if they have any leads. This may not lead them to the shooter, but it gives them a great place to start looking.

BTW, I think gun owners should know the SNs of every gun that they have or have had. Certainly not in their heads, but I keep mine written down in a journal that I keep seperate from my guns. I also keep SNs of TVs, VCRs, cars, my boat and engine, etc., in there in case an item gets stolen. I have also kept the names, addresses, and DL numbers of everyone I ever sold a gun to before private transfers were banned. That way if a criminal's actions ever did come back to me I would be able to tell the cops who had the gun after I did and exactly when I sold it. I have this info going back to the first gun I ever purchased back in 1982. It's not much work, and well worth the little bit of effort to keep your behind covered.

SmallTown... the issue is this. We teach our kids not to run through parking lots or with scissors, we teach them not to stick metal objects in the electric socket, we teach them not to talk to strangers, we teach them not to do many things that will get them hurt but many people are afraid to teach their kids firearms safety.

Most accidental shootings occur in the home when a child finds a loaded gun. I took my kids out to the gun range when they were about six in order to demystify them. They liked shotting my .22 rifle, but hated firing my Beretta 92. And they REALLY hated having to take the guns apart and cleaning them. But in the end, there was nothing mysterious about guns to them and they never had any curiosity about them.

Most parents get a gun and think that their smart enough to find a good hiding place where the kids will never find it. They may even tell their kids to never, ever, touch it. Yeah... that's a good way to de-mystify guns. So in the end, when a kid finds one of these ingeniously hidden guns, all that they know about them is what they've seen on TV or at the movies, and they treat the gun like a toy right up until it goes off. I would like to see every MD kid learn what guns are, what they can do, how to identify real guns from toy guns, how to tell if a gun is loaded, and what to do if they ever come across a gun.

Now, imagine that after this training.... after a kid has gone out to a pistol range and fired a gun and been scared by the noise and recoil, that he stumbles across Daddy's gun in the closet. Don't you think he would be much, much, less likely to just start pulling the trigger? I think he would either not pick it up, or he would check to see if it was loaded and then not pull the trigger... most likely the former option. That's the response that we want from kids... not playing cops and robbers with something they don't understand.
 
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