Evolution vs Creationism??? What do you feel should be in public schools?

[Cletus_Vandam]

Originally Posted by Bustem' Down

Religion until recent times was the major force in almost all world events ....

I'm not sure what you mean by this comment.

Religion is still the basis for nearly 100-percent of the conflict in the world today. Conflict in Ireland still rages on and that is based definitely based on religion, and in one form or another, the war on terrorism is religion based. The attacks on the USA were propagated by the fact that the USA chooses to back/support Israel (and their conflict with neighboring countries is religious differences between Judaism and Islamic beliefs).

I’m not debating if USA’s support of Israel is right or wrong (that could be another entire thread), just trying to make a point that the majority of today’s wars and conflict are religious based.

Agree or disagree?

More people through the course of history have died due to religious difference versus any other cause…

[cattitude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

I would venture to say that the majority of those posting in Politics have IQs above 120; they are balance by many of those posting in Chit Chat.

[Spoiled]

Originally Posted by Cletus_Vandam

The attacks on the USA were propagated by the fact that the USA chooses to back/support Israel (and their conflict with neighboring countries is religious differences between Judaism and Islamic beliefs).

that isnt entirely true, were more factors than just that... thought it did contribute :|

[ylexot (Premo)]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

I really do not see how you teach Christianity without the Bible, nor do I see how you can teach Judaism without the Torah, nor do I see how you teach Islam without the Qur'an.

It's easy to teach the principles of those religions without reading quotes from their respective books. I'm sure you could summarize Christianity without quoting the Bible. Teaching them without mentioning them, that's a different story...

[2ndAmendment]

Originally Posted by cattitude

You and certain others do not fall into the low IQ category.

[Cletus_Vandam]

Originally Posted by Spoiled

that isnt entirely true, were more factors than just that... thought it did contribute :|

I agree that the topic of the attacks against the US are a very deep subject, but do you honestly think that if we didn't support Israel on nearly 100% of what they do, we wouldn't have been attacked?

Again, just a question....

[2ndAmendment]

Originally Posted by ylexot

It's easy to teach the principles of those religions without reading quotes from their respective books. I'm sure you could summarize Christianity without quoting the Bible. Teaching them without mentioning them, that's a different story...

How do you teach the precepts of Christianity without telling the story of Y'shua (Jesus)? Where are the most accurate and complete accounts of Y'shua found according to Christians? It is as impossible to leave Biblical quotes out of teaching Christianity as the teaching of E=MC² when teaching physics.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Wrong:

Religion is still the basis for nearly 100-percent of the conflict in the world today

The Middle East, the Balkans, Ireland, religious, yes.

South America, Afircan wars, no. They are tribal and political conflicts.

Wrong:

More people through the course of history have died due to religious difference versus any other cause…

In the last century, WWI and II killed over 50 million people. They were not religious wars in any significant way.

In our Civil War 600,000 Americans died, 1/2 to combat, the other 1/2 was disease.

The Spanish flu of 1919 killed bewteen 20-40 million human beings.

reference:

http://net-burst.net/hot/ware.htm

[Cletus_Vandam]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Wrong:



The Middle East, the Balkans, Ireland, religious, yes.

South America, Afircan wars, no. They are tribal and political conflicts.

Wrong:



In the last century, WWI and II killed over 50 million people. They were not religious wars in any significant way.

In our Civil War 600,000 Americans died, 1/2 to combat, the other 1/2 was disease.

The Spanish flu of 1919 killed bewteen 20-40 million human beings.

reference:

http://net-burst.net/hot/ware.htm

Interesting post. You've got me really thinking on this now.... I'm going to look into this further. Not trying to prove you wrong or prove me right. I've just always heard what I written earlier and never gave it a second thought.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Cletus_Vandam

I've just always heard what I written earlier and never gave it a second thought.

Religious conflicts are the day in and day out mundane killing that mankind does to keep from being bored until a REAL war comes along.

Religious fights, by their nature, just go on and on and on at some intensity or other.

Lincoln was asked during our Civil War the question as to whether God was on our side (the Union) or their side (the Confederacy). It was suppossed to be one of those clever 'gotchas' as both sides were very much Christian and American Christian to boot.

Lincoln, being a very clever man, said (as he was one of our more reflective Presidents):

"Let us just pray we are on Gods side."

Patton, some 80 years later, being on his own side first last and always, simply prayed for weather good enough to kill Germans thereby sparing the Almighty any strain in choosing sides what with conflicting prayers coming in right and left.

You'll find that, while we humans argue about God enough, we don't kill in His name as often as we do for commercial purposes.