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Old 05-09-2005, 01:07 PM   #41 (permalink)
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More good...

...Corpse Stacked High numbers:

http://www.catholicbridge.com/more_d...gious_wars.htm
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I've just always heard what I written earlier and never gave it a second thought.
You'll never hear a Christian or any other religious person say "religion has caused more death and war than any other cause". Only the anti-religious toss that out there to "prove" that God and religion are evil.

I'd have to look but, off the top of my head, I'd say that religion is WAY down there on the list of why there are wars or conflicts. Land and power acquisition is probably the #1.
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You'll never hear a Christian or any other religious person say "religion has caused more death and war than any other cause". Only the anti-religious toss that out there to "prove" that God and religion are evil.

I'd have to look but, off the top of my head, I'd say that religion is WAY down there on the list of why there are wars or conflicts. Land and power acquisition is probably the #1.

...you don't have to look. It's WAY down the list.
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I think many of the african wars are also religion based? protestant vs catholic? christian vs muslim? I maybe wrong...

and vrai, many of those land wars have been to spread a religion... :|
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I think many of the african wars are also religion based? protestant vs catholic? christian vs muslim? I maybe wrong...

and vrai, many of those land wars have been to spread a religion... :|

...all tribal. Mogadishu. Somalia. All of them.
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and vrai, many of those land wars have been to spread a religion... :|
Communism and Socialism are not religions.
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Very interesting reading

I had been reading on this topic since pasting my earlier replay and have found several resources talking on this very subject.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/gunsorxp.htm


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The Holocaust, however, is a special case. It still rates the two points assigned to the secular horrors of the Nazis, but because it was the culmination of centuries of Christian anti-Semitism, Christianity easily earns an extra point from Question 5. Because of the loopy racial theories that the Nazis used to support their atrocities, we probably can't say that the Holocaust was mostly religious in origin, but since the only real difference between the Jews and the rest of Europe is religion, we have to at least give religion partial credit.

Again, not trying to prove something either way. I think "religion" may have relivence that in one explaination versus another can be found to be a source of conflict in one form or another.

Like I said earlier, I'm not trying to prove my point, or debunk the others. There is just a lot of interesting reading on the topic....

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Communism and Socialism are not religions.
But most of the time, ethnic cleansing is about religion.
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Old 05-09-2005, 03:08 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Cletus...

....give it up my man.

The Holocaust was racial, period. Hitler didn't murder gypsies and homosexuals
and Poles and Russians because of their God. Master Race, remember?

WWI is NOT a gray are AT all.
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But most of the time, ethnic cleansing is about religion.
...it's about race, tribe.
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