The sales pitch continues...

[rraley]

2A, would you vote for John McCain or Hilary Clinton?

McCain would win 85% of Republicans, 54% of independents, and win about 15% of Democrats...makings of a hell of a landslide.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

McCain would probably smoke most potential Democratic candidates. Nuff said.

Sure - if he ran as a Democrat. Republicans don't like him and he didn't make it past the primary last time.

The "it" was a paper that was a pledge to stop using PAC money for the campaign (Lazio raised more money from PACs than Clinton). I think that it is amazing that a former first lady, who lived in Arkansas, who was wife to a man who had so many personal problems during his presidency, who was nearly outspent by some Long Island congressman, not only won in New York, but won by 12%. Perhaps she's not "duping" us; maybe she's just that good?

Just a smidge of revisionist history there, eh?

First of all, Hillary Clinton criticized Lazio repeatedly for taking soft money. He said, "Fine - I'll quit if you'll quit" and that's what that piece of paper was all about. (She refused to sign, but kept criticizing him for doing it)

Second, Lazio entered the race five months before election day, and was a lowly Representative, compared to her high-profile position of First Lady. It's not surprising that she won - it's surprising that she only won by 12%. Rudy would have killed her.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

McCain would win 85% of Republicans, 54% of independents, and win about 15% of Democrats...makings of a hell of a landslide.

Again, he wouldn't make it past the primary.

[2ndAmendment]

Originally Posted by rraley

2A, would you vote for John McCain or Hilary Clinton?

McCain would win 85% of Republicans, 54% of independents, and win about 15% of Democrats...makings of a hell of a landslide.

Neither! But I will vote if I am alive, and I will not be throwing my vote away.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by rraley

2A, would you vote for John McCain or Hilary Clinton?

McCain would win 85% of Republicans, 54% of independents, and win about 15% of Democrats...makings of a hell of a landslide.

I'd vote for Hillary before I'd vote for McCain. There are things you can NOT do on my side and still have my support. McCain/Feingold is one of the most vulgar hostilities on free speech in the history of the nation.

[rraley]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Again, he wouldn't make it past the primary.

I agree with you, but if he made it through to the general, he would win.

I don't think he's gonna run either, but I disagree with the characterization that he would lose a general election...he has incredible star power.

As for the Guiliani/Lazio piece, the media still didn't cover that (at least their analysts didn't), they just covered what happened in that debate.

Also, to remind you, Hillary had a lead over Guiliani in Senate election polls before he dropped out due to a very public divorce with his THIRD wife (I'm sure Republicans love that) and due to his personal battle with prostate cancer. It was a campaign that was becoming more and more out of control by the day.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

he has incredible star power.

You and Tim Russert?

[rraley]

The John Stewart liberal pot smokers...the hipsters, moderate/liberal Republicans, military conservatives, conservative/dlc Democrats...basically everyone but Tom DeLay's Christian right...that ain't bad for a general...very bad for a Republican primary.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

Also, to remind you, Hillary had a lead over Guiliani in Senate election polls before he dropped out

He was only behind her for a couple of weeks And that was right after NYC cops shot that Hatian dude. Don't you remember how her mouthpieces kept going on TV saying they "don't pay attention to polls" and "polls mean nothing at this stage"? That's because she was behind. Otherwise they'd have been touting her numbers.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

basically everyone but Tom DeLay's Christian right...

For the record, I am not one of Tom Delay's Christian right.