The sales pitch continues...

[rraley]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

For the record, I am not one of Tom Delay's Christian right.

I know, I wish we could say that for more than 60% of the Republican Party.

The Christian Right has tremendous power in early primary states...so they play an integral role in selecting the GOP nominee. If I were y'all I would be thankful....after all they gave us President Bush, who most of you see as a very good president.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

The Christian Right has tremendous power in early primary states...

I disagree. I think they're just being touted as the new "soccer mom" or "NASCAR dad" - a minor demographic that the losers point to in order to explain their loss.

This must be why Hillary Clinton is making up all these lies about her supposed religious beliefs - because she listens to too many CNN and network news tards trying to explain George Bush's "surprising" win.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

I know, I wish we could say that for more than 60% of the Republican Party.

I don't know anyone who IS a member of the Christian right, except for maybe 2A - and he's not even a true rightie, he's a Constitutionalist.

[ylexot (Premo)]

Originally Posted by rraley

I know, I wish we could say that for more than 60% of the Republican Party.

The Christian Right has tremendous power in early primary states...so they play an integral role in selecting the GOP nominee. If I were y'all I would be thankful....after all they gave us President Bush, who most of you see as a very good president.

What do you have to be to be one of "Tom DeLay's Christian Right"? I'm Christian and I'm on the right, but I don't give a sh@t about Tom DeLay. I think you're stereotyping rraley.

[vraiblonde]

What was funny was all the tards chattering about the "morality" vote. If the "morality" votes went to George Bush, wouldn't it stand to reason that the "immorality" vote went to the Democrat?




Hey, at least they admit it.

[FromTexas]

Originally Posted by rraley

The John Stewart liberal pot smokers...the hipsters, moderate/liberal Republicans, military conservatives, conservative/dlc Democrats...basically everyone but Tom DeLay's Christian right...that ain't bad for a general...very bad for a Republican primary.

He sucks with me, and I am not the "Christian right".

[FromTexas]

Originally Posted by rraley

I know, I wish we could say that for more than 60% of the Republican Party.

Playing up that stereotype of the "Christian Right" again.

Thats what your hidden message says.

[rraley]

You guys can tell me all about how since none of you subscribe to the Christian Right label, it has no great influence in the GOP, doesn't make it true. You especially cannot tell me that after the Schiavo fiasco when your side forgot their conservative principles and the concept of legality to allow ONE case to be heard in a federal court when a state court had ruled close to twenty times on the matter in order to appease Christian conservatives. You cannot tell me that when George W. Bush speaks at Bob Jones University to attract votes. You cannot tell me that after John McCain said that the "GOP was the party of Ronald Reagan, not Jerry Falwell" in 2000 his standings in the polls went from way high to way low. You cannot tell me this when Tom DeLay and Bill Frist say that the filibuster is "used against people of faith." Utterly ridiculous.

Y'all have taken a hard look at the Democratic side, and you have seen some very extreme elements, just like I have. I know that the Dean wing of my party has far too much influence...y'all need to do the same thing for your side and see that the Falwell, DeLay backers have far too much influence as well.

[FromTexas]

Originally Posted by rraley

You guys can tell me all about how since none of you subscribe to the Christian Right label, it has no great influence in the GOP, doesn't make it true. You especially cannot tell me that after the Schiavo fiasco when your side forgot their conservative principles and the concept of legality to allow ONE case to be heard in a federal court when a state court had ruled close to twenty times on the matter in order to appease Christian conservatives. You cannot tell me that when George W. Bush speaks at Bob Jones University to attract votes. You cannot tell me that after John McCain said that the "GOP was the party of Ronald Reagan, not Jerry Falwell" in 2000 his standings in the polls went from way high to way low. You cannot tell me this when Tom DeLay and Bill Frist say that the filibuster is "used against people of faith." Utterly ridiculous.

Y'all have taken a hard look at the Democratic side, and you have seen some very extreme elements, just like I have. I know that the Dean wing of my party has far too much influence...y'all need to do the same thing for your side and see that the Falwell, DeLay backers have far too much influence as well.

The "Christian Right" isn't extreme. Some elements are. My comment on your stereotyping is exactly what you have done above! Just that. What exactly would you say is wrong with having people with a sense of morality on our side? You paint this like its a bad thing. Extremists are extremists, but most Christians on the right aren't extremists like Falwell. They cater to Falwell to support the right, but Falwell does not set policy. Open your eyes and get rid of the garbage they have been feeding you.

[rraley]

I am not criticizing their morality, in most instances I accept and live it (though I would never kick my child out if he or she was a homosexual). What is wrong is their belief in enforcing that morality on everyone through a government that is meant to act secularly. Sure there are moderate elements in the Christian Right, but these are people who would not identify as members of that bloc (such as yourself FromTexas). Being moral doesn't mean that you are in the Christian Right.