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[Larry Gude (Premo)]

"A victory for Bernie Sanders is a win for Democrats," Dean said in a telephone interview Monday.

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This is an example of what I mean about letting them talk.

If I said socialism and modern Democrats go together it's hate speech.

If Howard says it, it's gold.

[rraley]

It's a win for Democrats because he votes for Democratic organization of the Senate...that's my outlook on it...but I see where you are going.

But recall, it is Vermont; they love their far lefties...oh, and Sanders is opposed to most forms of gun control; not too bad.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

It's a win for Democrats because he votes for Democratic organization of the Senate...

Let's think about that for a minute, shall we? The self-described Socialist votes for the Democratic platform. Now why do you suppose he would do that, hmmm?

Co-founder of the House Progressive Caucus...and a Socialist. Progressive - there's that word again. What do you think he's trying to tell us? And, more importantly, what are the Democrats trying to tell us by embracing him?

A puzzle for sure.

[rraley]

The Democrats are telling you that they want to be in control of the Senate.

He doesn't vote for the Democratic platform; he votes for them to organize the Senate.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

The Democrats are telling you that they want to be in control of the Senate.

Because...the Socialist votes like they do. Vurry interestink.

He doesn't vote for the Democratic platform

You could have fooled me.

he votes for them to organize the Senate.

What does that mean? Like, does someone say, "Hey! Who wants Democrats to organize the Senate?" and Bernie Sanders raises his hand and says, "ME!! ME!!"?

[rraley]

Wow I had no idea that seeing flag desecration as protected free speech (which strict constructionist Anton Scalia agrees with), believing that unconditional free trade that is not dependent on human rights, and voting to allow airline pilots to carry guns are all considered "socialist." Sure, Sanders has some very socialistic tendencies, from believing in Canadian-style health care, supporting increased taxes for everyone, and demilitarization, but the overwhelming majorities of these votes suggest a more left of center positioning rather than a far left of center positioning. Essentially, he agrees with 75% of Democratic positions, while on the other 25% he goes a little further to the left.

As for "voting to organize" the Senate, that means that Sanders will be part of the Democratic caucus and on the first day of the Senate session, he will vote, along with other Democratic caucus members, to elect Harry Reid Majority Leader, Dick Durbin majority whip, and the whole slate of Democratic committee chairmen. So yeah, basically, when the Senate President asks who wants the Democrats to assume the position of majority party and organize the Senate, Bernie Sanders will say "me!!" Look at a government book, "organizing" the body is the shorthand term for this (AP government exam tomorrow; I've been studying up).

[vraiblonde]

You, RRaley, said:

He doesn't vote for the Democratic platform;

I proved to you that, yes, he does.

Sure, Sanders has some very socialistic tendencies

Sanders describes himself as a Socialist. He does not have "Socialistic tendencies" - he IS a Socialist.

so·cial·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key )
n.

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

And YOUR DNC chairman loves him.

[rraley]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

And YOUR DNC chairman loves him.

My DNC chairman? Ah, right. Howard Dean can blow it out his azz...but he's making a good tactical call here; rather than run a Democrat in this election (and potentially detract support from the popular Sanders leading to a GOP victory), we should stick with Sanders so the GOP majority in the Senate is decreased...Political realism, vrai...

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by rraley

My DNC chairman? Ah, right. Howard Dean can blow it out his azz...but he's making a good tactical call here; rather than run a Democrat in this election (and potentially detract support from the popular Sanders leading to a GOP victory), we should stick with Sanders so the GOP majority in the Senate is decreased...Political realism, vrai...

Sounds like Dean is more of an anti-Republican than he is a Democrat. Some people would call him a sell out.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by rraley

Political realism, vrai...

You're in denial.