Guns or no Guns

[Tinkerbell]

I am posting this strictly out of curiousity and am thinking maybe other peoples insight/knowledge will help me understand this better.

Why is it in countries that have literally banned all firearms, even cops on routine patrol don't carry them, they have a much lower (almost non-existent) incidence of violent crimes, especially those involving firearms?

People say: limit guns then only the criminals have them. That's not true in Britain or Australia.

Alot of people believe that if the US allowed people to have CCW permits in all states, that it would cut down on crimes with guns because criminals would be more hesitant to approach not knowing if you are armed. Yet, Britain and Austrailia tried the complete opposite way - no guns for anyone (except hunting, etc.) - and it's worked great. You don't see a case of criminals running around with guns - they don't have them either (I'm sure a couple got ahold of them somehow, though).

I don't get it.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Yep, you don't get it.

Article on violent crime - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=21902

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Ken King

Yep, you don't get it.

Article on violent crime - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=21902

Check out the statistics for England and Wales. http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

[Roughidle]

Jack the Ripper was fairly violent in my opinion...no gun used.
My point is the weapon of choice has no bearing on the violent
nature of the crime. The act of taking a life is violent regardless if by
bullet, chain-saw or your mother in-law's meatloaf.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell

Why is it in countries that have literally banned all firearms, even cops on routine patrol don't carry them, they have a much lower (almost non-existent) incidence of violent crimes, especially those involving firearms?

Tink, what made you think that? Because (as Ken and Vince have already posted) it's simply not true.

So I'm genuinely curious where you got that information?

[HunterJJD]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Tink, what made you think that? Because (as Ken and Vince have already posted) it's simply not true.

So I'm genuinely curious where you got that information?

Liberal news papers and congress

[LordStanley]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

So I'm genuinely curious where you got that information?

Forestal must have PM'd her the info.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by LordStanley

Forestal must have PM'd her the info.

[Tinkerbell]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Tink, what made you think that? Because (as Ken and Vince have already posted) it's simply not true.

So I'm genuinely curious where you got that information?

VRAI: Articles I've read, programs I've seen on various channels on TV, etc.

KEN KING -- I knew this would get people spun up. However, I thought I made it clear in my original post that I was asking because I thought you guys could give me your opinions and knowledge to go by. No need to be snippy.

Whoever brought up Jack the Ripper --- bit of a stretch. Try to stay in the same century - ok?

LORD STANLEY and HUNTER JJD -- You both obviously feel that I'm not thinking straight. You have a chance to help me "get it" and that's the best you can do? I said in my first post that I only know what I've seen. I have not done an in depth Thesis or Dissertation on this subject. I've seen news reports recently (in light of the VT shootings) and in the past and seen news articles in various magazines on the subject. BUT THAT'S IT! SO -- I thought I'd ask people who seem to know more about this stuff.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell

VRAI: Articles I've read, programs I've seen on various channels on TV, etc.

KEN KING -- I knew this would get people spun up. However, I thought I made it clear in my original post that I was asking because I thought you guys could give me your opinions and knowledge to go by. No need to be snippy.

Whoever brought up Jack the Ripper --- bit of a stretch. Try to stay in the same century - ok?

LORD STANLEY and HUNTER JJD -- You both obviously feel that I'm not thinking straight. You have a chance to help me "get it" and that's the best you can do? I said in my first post that I only know what I've seen. I have not done an in depth Thesis or Dissertation on this subject. I've seen news reports recently (in light of the VT shootings) and in the past and seen news articles in various magazines on the subject. BUT THAT'S IT! SO -- I thought I'd ask people who seem to know more about this stuff.

Who was getting snippy, just advising you that you don't get it. I was just pointing out that there are facts out there that do not support your assertion, nothing more than that.