Preaching Women

[~mellabella~]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

From your post I gather that you are going to work for the Devil and you intend to do the Devil's work well.

LMAO! I was told this on another post recently...devil's advocate. I see what you're saying JPC, I just don't want to be lumped together with the rest of the judicial system that acts on little to no proof. THAT is why I am defensive about it.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by ~mellabella~

LMAO! I was told this on another post recently...devil's advocate. I see what you're saying JPC, I just don't want to be lumped together with the rest of the judicial system that acts on little to no proof. THAT is why I am defensive about it.

Then do not go in there as some vulture to the carcass and remember the woman "Rhodes" on the video that cared more about the families then the demands of the unjust laws.

Jesus wore a crown of thorns in defiance of the laws of His day, so do go to the Court and give us a reason to be proud.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

..remember the woman "Rhodes" on the video that cared more about the families then the demands of the unjust laws.

You keep quoting that video - so let's talk about it. Here are some discussion points:

Originally Posted by This_person

What did she say that was so wrong from the point of view of Child Support Enforcement?

She said that the Child Support Enforcement agency does not represent the family, but is a friend of the court. That's good - that ensures the agents remember they're not to side with one part of the argument or the other.

She said that the agents were rated on how much money they brought in. What? Someone rated on how well they enforce the rules they're being paid to enforce?! What a shocker there

She said that the courts were allotted more money based on the number of cases they had. Hmmm, money based on need - too bad more of government doesn't work this way.

She claimed lies and abuses, but never said what lies, what abuses she was even claiming, just that there were lies and abuses.

She was non-credible in her complaints, but made a lot of sense with her fact based statements. I think she just didn't understand the point of her job. She was a foot soldier, jaded by her war, that complained of those above her, without understanding her own accusations or the big picture of what she accomplished.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by This_person

You keep quoting that video - so let's talk about it. Here are some discussion points:

See
~mellabella~,

Above is the kind of bigoted mentality that we have to deal with.

He WANTS the separated parents to be degraded, and his kind care nothing about justice or human rights.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by JPC sr

See ~mellabella~,

Above is the kind of bigoted mentality that we have to deal with.

He WANTS the separated parents to be degraded, and his kind care nothing about justice or human rights.

This is a discussion of my points? It appears to be nothing more than an unfounded personal attack with no mention of the message. Are you afraid to debate the message because your points are so weak?

Try again!

[~mellabella~]

Social workers, child support enforcement agencies, ect. are SUPPOSED to be working on behalf of the child caught in the middle. Not for either parent, but in the BEST INTEREST of the child.

[Plan B]

Christ said Give unto Ceasar..., sent Peter to catch the fish with their taxes in it's mouth, and Paul thru the HS told us to obey laws and that rulers were appointed from above.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by ~mellabella~

Social workers, child support enforcement agencies, ect. are SUPPOSED to be working on behalf of the child caught in the middle. Not for either parent, but in the BEST INTEREST of the child.

That was my first point, and her first complaint. On the video, she claims she should be working on behalf of the custodial parent. I strongly disagree with her on that point, and agree with what you are saying here. A "friend of the court" is someone who's looking out for the best interest of the person in the weakest position - the child.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by Plan B

Christ said Give unto Ceasar..., sent Peter to catch the fish with their taxes in it's mouth, and Paul thru the HS told us to obey laws and that rulers were appointed from above.

Jesus did not say to obey Caesar in doing sinful wrong to people.

Peter and other apostles clarified it by saying we must obey God rather then men, link HERE.

The Romans put Christians in the lion's den to eat alive, so do you say those Christians were obeying Caesar? or were they sinning?

The present custody and child support laws hurt families, so our first duty is in doing right by helping the families in their need, and not in serving our modern day Caesar that breaks up families and hurt people.

[JPC sr]

Originally Posted by ~mellabella~

Social workers, child support enforcement agencies, ect. are SUPPOSED to be working on behalf of the child caught in the middle. Not for either parent, but in the BEST INTEREST of the child.

That is an absurdity that is being forced onto our society.

To help any child we must help the child's parent(s) and then the parents will take care of their own children.

Claiming to help a child by harming their parents is what goes on now.

The law does not represent the children - that is the parents place, so the Court is violating the parent's authority and breaking up the family unit.

It is like having a hungry family and then feeding the children and give nothing to the parents and then saying look how self righteous we are because we help children.

The need is to feed the parents and then the parents will feed their own children accordingly.

Anything that attacks or harms either parent is harming the child.

Having laws that are only representing the "interest of the child" is shutting out the parents and violating the family unit.

If we want to help the child then we must help the family, but now we have laws that claim to help the child by dividing the family unit, and the family unit is the building blocks of every society and thus the misguided laws are hurting everyone and the so-called help is vain.