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Old 11-19-2007, 10:58 AM   #21 (permalink)
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You are proving your ignorance of Christians and your bias against them.
sayeth the person who implies a message of hope is really just a smoke screen.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:59 AM   #22 (permalink)
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That doesn't mean we shouldn't accept the offering of peace.

I say we should embrase them as brothers.






And should the day ever come (God forbid) that they stab us in the back, just remember that we have about a jillion nuclear bombs.
I didn't say anywhere not to embrace the offering. I stated that I think Starman was saying we should be wary. I agree.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:59 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Please note that some of us view the original message as something positive. How about we focus on that.
Ok kudos to those that understand that the believers of one religion are reaching out to the believers of another religion to attempt to find common ground to cohabitate.

But Xaquin wasnt directing his post to you, he was talking to those that can't focus on anything other than Negative.

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Because deep down, people that argue against the Muslim faith, worry that any exposure to Islam will cause children to become Muslim Clerics or something.

however, when the Muslims attempt to open communication, there is no chance that the intolerance and violence from both sides could be influenced.

strange isnt it?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:04 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Only if you can't read, or you read with a predisposition to finding hate where there is none.

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sayeth the person who implies a message of hope is really just a smoke screen.
I implied nothing. I stated that it may be a smoke screen. Is it? I don't know. The word "may" expresses uncertainty. Are you certain that it is not a smoke screen?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:10 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I implied nothing. I stated that it may be a smoke screen. Is it? I don't know. The word "may" expresses uncertainty. Are you certain that it is not a smoke screen?
and saying it 'may' be a smoke screen isn't implying?

just like saying something 'may' be a trap implies that you think it could be.

I doubt it's a 'smoke screen' .... believe it or not, many people are actually good people who are not trying to trick you.

I swear, 'true' christians, atheists, muslims and everyone else are so similar that it's both sad and funny. So much distrust, suspician and internal malice (disguised as honest and open external debate) on each side.

I really think that in the end, god takes a back seat and either side just wants to be seen as right.

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I didn't say anywhere not to embrace the offering. I stated that I think Starman was saying we should be wary. I agree.
I understood that - And that's what I was responding to.

That's twice I've done that in this thread.... maybe I should respond directly to the posts I'm addressing.....




Anyway - I disagree with both of you on this one... what should we be wary about? As Christians, what do we possibly have to lose by accepting an outstretched hand?

It's not like we're going to invite them into our clubhouse and show them the super-sekrit-handshake, and they'll turn around and de-pants us in front of all the laughing and pointing atheists and pagans. They're not going to give the pope a wedgie and run his big hat up the flagpole.


And let's say this peace peace offering is a ruse? Then what? What would we have lost, exactly? If this is some kind of trick (which I seriously doubt), then we'll just go back to the way things are now. Big whoop.


Personally, I can't see any reason to NOT respond to this letter with anything but open arms.
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I understood that - And that's what I was responding to.

That's twice I've done that in this thread.... maybe I should respond directly to the posts I'm addressing.....




Anyway - I disagree with both of you on this one... what should we be wary about? As Christians, what do we possibly have to lose by accepting an outstretched hand?

It's not like we're going to invite them into our clubhouse and show them the super-sekrit-handshake, and they'll turn around and pants us in front of all the atheists and pagans. They're not going to give the pope a wedgie and run his big hat up the flagpole.


And let's say this peace peace offering is a ruse? Then what? What would we have lost, exactly? If this is some kind of trick (which I seriously doubt), then we'll just go back to the way things are now. Big whoop.


Personally, I can't see any reason to NOT respond to this letter with anything but open arms.
thats not fair

how come i cant say giving the Pope a wedgie
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They're not going to give the pope a wedgie and run his big hat up the flagpole.
the muslims from Delta house would.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:20 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Seems all these statements came from Muslim sources, so, I ask, who is promulgating hate? I state that it is not Starman3000m but those that made the original statements.
Exactly right. Thanks 2A. My intention is to warn that we should in fact be wary of those who extend an olive-branch which is really not in good faith but in deception in order to get us to let our guard down.
That is exactly what Jesus would do; warn of wolves in sheeps clothing and of false prophets.

The quotes I posted are the true intentions of the Islamic ideology and these spokesmen mean what they say.

I believe many who claim that I did not read the article did not really read it themselves, otherwise they would have noted the following comment within the article:

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ISLAM - CHRISTIANITY The Letter of 138 Muslim scholars to the Pope and Christian Leaders - Asia News
Also, the Islamic claim that Muslims worship the "same God" is not true, as "Al'lah" discounts the Deity of Jesus. Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God and Saviour of mankind; the fundamental faith in Christianity.

Islam is anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, anti-Atheist - basically against any non-Islamic society. Those who wish to deny this do so at the peril of their own future.

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Exactly right. Thanks 2A. My intention is to warn that we should in fact be wary of those who extend an olive-branch which is really not in good faith but in deception in order to get us to let our guard down.
THE MUSLIMS ARE IN OUR FORT!!!

2A GET THE WATER BALLOONS!

I'LL MAN THE SUPERSOAKER BRIGADE!



OH NO! THEY'RE USING THEIR ALLAH POWERS COMBINED WITH A GARDEN HOSE!

WE ARE TRULY LOST UNLESS OUR GOD CREATIVLY USES THE SLIP AND SLIDE ESCAPE ROUTE AND REGROUPS WITH A MILLION SOAKED NERF FOOTBALLS!
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