The Letter of 138 Muslim scholars to the Pope and Christian Leaders

[nhboy]

"Beirut (AsiaNews) – The Letter by 138 Islamic academics to the Pope and Christian leaders is a first positive step towards dialogue, which however needs to become more universal and more concrete.

The letter lies in the explicit context of an extension of the first letter, sent exactly one year ago to Benedict XVI, as a reply to his masterful address at Regensburg University: the same date was chosen for its publication (13th October 2007), which this year coincided with the end of Ramadan[1]"

ISLAM - CHRISTIANITY The Letter of 138 Muslim scholars to the Pope and Christian Leaders - Asia News

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by nhboy

"Beirut (AsiaNews) – The Letter by 138 Islamic academics to the Pope and Christian leaders is a first positive step towards dialogue, which however needs to become more universal and more concrete.

The letter lies in the explicit context of an extension of the first letter, sent exactly one year ago to Benedict XVI, as a reply to his masterful address at Regensburg University: the same date was chosen for its publication (13th October 2007), which this year coincided with the end of Ramadan[1]"

ISLAM - CHRISTIANITY The Letter of 138 Muslim scholars to the Pope and Christian Leaders - Asia News

Hmmm... Just a few reminders to keep in mind when engaging in the "first postive step towards dialogue" with the Islamic leaders:

Muhammad: "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them. They will have the same rights as the Muslims have, and have the same responsibilities as the Muslims have." (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 14, Number 2635, Narrated Anas ibn Malik)

Hadith: "It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim."
(Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366)

Muslim cleric values life??? Reuters 4/18/2004

"It's inevitable. Because several (attacks) are being prepared by several groups," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad told Lisbon's Publica magazine from London where he is based. He added: "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers! And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity!.

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CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble unless it accepts Islam.*Anti-CAIR* Defending America from The Council on American-Islamic Relations

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Omar Ahmad, Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
5/16/2004

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=6473

Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) Spokesperson
AP - 6/11/2004

"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like
the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in
the future. ...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
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[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Hmmm... Just a few reminders to keep in mind when engaging in the "first postive step towards dialogue" with the Islamic leaders:

Muhammad: "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them. They will have the same rights as the Muslims have, and have the same responsibilities as the Muslims have." (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 14, Number 2635, Narrated Anas ibn Malik)

Hadith: "It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim."
(Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366)

Muslim cleric values life??? Reuters 4/18/2004

"It's inevitable. Because several (attacks) are being prepared by several groups," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad told Lisbon's Publica magazine from London where he is based. He added: "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers! And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity!.

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CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble unless it accepts Islam.*Anti-CAIR* Defending America from The Council on American-Islamic Relations

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Omar Ahmad, Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
5/16/2004

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=6473

Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) Spokesperson
AP - 6/11/2004

"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like
the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in
the future. ...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
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More Research: Research

way to not read BUT keep up the hate :twothumbsup:

[Nucklesack]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

way to not read BUT keep up the hate :twothumbsup:

You really didnt expect anything differently did you?

[Xaquin44]

Starman3000m.

devout christian.

spreading the message (of hate) one post at a time.

just like Jesus would have done.



wait ....

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

Starman3000m.

devout christian.

spreading the message (of hate) one post at a time.

just like Jesus would have done.



wait ....

Seems all these statements came from Muslim sources, so, I ask, who is promulgating hate? I state that it is not Starman3000m but those that made the original statements.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

Seems all these statements came from Muslim sources, so, I ask, who is promulgating hate? I state that it is not Starman3000m but those that made the original statements.

yeah, but the article in the first post was very positive. Who came in to remind everyone that some are bad?

I could if you want, find statements by christians saying bad things to and about muslims. We all know they exist. Same with muslims to christians .... but why take a good article and gesture of faith and piss on it?

edit: it's like starman took delight in pointing a finger and saying oh yeah oh yeah well look look

I note the hipocracy (sp?) but will also point out that christians are supposed to be on the forgiving side.

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by nhboy

"Beirut (AsiaNews) – The Letter by 138 Islamic academics to the Pope and Christian leaders is a first positive step towards dialogue, which however needs to become more universal and more concrete.

Thus in obedience to the Holy Qur’an, we as Muslims invite Christians to come together with us on the basis of what is common to us, which is also what is most essential to our faith and practice: the Two Commandments of love.


I anxiously wait to hear the response from the Pope Benedict. I expect you'll be keeping an eye out for it?

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

Seems all these statements came from Muslim sources, so, I ask, who is promulgating hate? I state that it is not Starman3000m but those that made the original statements.

again, so blinded by his wish to hate he didn't read the article

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

yeah, but the article in the first post was very positive. Who came in to remind everyone that some are bad?

Yeah-yeah-yeah....

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

I could if you want, find statements by christians saying bad things to and about muslims.

I'm sure you could - and that would solve....?


Please note that some of us view the original message as something positive. How about we focus on that.