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Old 12-03-2007, 09:17 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes, everybody gets saved.

That nonsense about burning people in Hell is just to scare people and it was never true or accurate.

God and Christ said they will save even the worst of their enemies link HERE.

Jesus paid the penalty in full for everybody so salvation for all is done at the cross already.

That verse doesn't have anything to do with what you are saying. JPC, I truely feel sorry for you in the belief you have. You truely believe this. Does it not seem odd to you that NO ONE else agrees with you? Seriously, open your mind to other possibilities. It is in your best interest.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:19 AM   #22 (permalink)
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So do you like Charles Stanley?

I go to the Lex Park Baptist Church some times and I like the music there.

Come hear Fred preach sometime.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm blind! Read the whole thing! That's just an excuse to be an a-hole.
If he doesn't believe this way, he knows he'll either have to actually repent for his decades of immoral actions, or he'll go to hell. He can't or won't change his ways, so his only option is to blind himself to truth. That way, he no longer needs to take any responsibility for his actions.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:25 AM   #24 (permalink)
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If he doesn't believe this way, he knows he'll either have to actually repent for his decades of immoral actions, or he'll go to hell. He can't or won't change his ways, so his only option is to blind himself to truth. That way, he no longer needs to take any responsibility for his actions.
Why do you not speak for yourself?

Is it that you do not know who Charles Stanley is?

or you have no personal beliefs of your own?
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:26 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Why do you not speak for yourself?

Is it that you do not know who Charles Stanley is?

or you have no personal beliefs of your own?
Did I hit too close to home, shortbus?
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Come hear Fred preach sometime.
I do not know who "Fred" is? or where he is?
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:21 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Come hear Fred preach sometime.
JPC doesn't pay attention to the preaching especially when it contradicts his own inane beliefs. Our pastors, both of them, told him personally face to face and, when he refused to change his "everybody gets saved" junk, from the pulpit. He still refuses to recognize the Spiritual authority of the Bible except for what he picks and chooses out of context or with his deluded interpretation.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:40 AM   #28 (permalink)
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JPC doesn't pay attention to the preaching especially when it contradicts his own inane beliefs. Our pastors, both of them, told him personally face to face and, when he refused to change his "everybody gets saved" junk, from the pulpit. He still refuses to recognize the Spiritual authority of the Bible except for what he picks and chooses out of context or with his deluded interpretation.

Perhaps JPC sr has not yet read about the "Lamb's Book of Life" as mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Jesus (The Lamb of God) speaks of those whose names will be blotted out of the Lamb's Book of Life for their willful unbelief.

My understanding of this is that all people who have ever been born into this world have their name written in God's roster of mankind. Those who willingly chose to follow Satan's deception and reject God's provision of Salvation through Yeshua HaMashiach will have their names blotted out of the Book of Life.

Names being blotted out of the Lambs Book of Life means that not all people will be saved.

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.
It's just that people reject God's Offer and believe they can work their own way to heaven without a Saviour.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:43 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Perhaps JPC sr has not yet read about the "Lamb's Book of Life" as mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Jesus (The Lamb of God) speaks of those whose names will be blotted out of the Lamb's Book of Life for their willful unbelief.

My understanding of this is that all people who have ever been born into this world have their name written in God's roster of mankind. Those who willingly chose to follow Satan's deception and reject God's provision of Salvation through Yeshua HaMashiach will have their names blotted out of the Book of Life.

Names being blotted out of the Lambs Book of Life means that not all people will be saved.

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.
It's just that people reject God's Offer and believe they can work their own way to heaven without a Saviour.
JPC has been shown those passages. He doesn't believe the Bible. He only believes what he picks from the Bible.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:05 AM   #30 (permalink)
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JPC has been shown those passages. He doesn't believe the Bible. He only believes what he picks from the Bible.
JPC sr needs lots of prayer. Perhaps his idea that all people get saved is his way of "hoping" that for all he has done he will still be included among those who actually have received personal Salvation through Yeshua.

JPC needs to know that while God's Plan of Salvation is through Yeshua, God's Forgiveness requires an action of willful repentance and invitation for Yeshua to become his personal Lord and Saviour.

JPC: Salvation is an offer to all but it is not a blanket guarantee for all!

For example: A horse can be led to water and yet die of thirst if it does not drink the water that is in front of it. Just being near the water does not quench the horse's thirst. Thus, a personal commitment of faith in Yeshua HaMashiach must be arrived at and it must be personally requested by renouncing your personal desires of the world and inviting Yeshua into your life to be your Lord and Saviour. You need to drink of the Living Water!

When you are forgiven by God, you must also learn to forgive yourself and allow the Holy Spirit of God to begin to teach you with the wisdom of God's guidance for your personal life.

You and your family are in my prayers JPC sr.
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