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Old 12-11-2007, 07:17 AM   #21 (permalink)
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As have some people.
Yes.
Marie has posted some informative links that indicate how widespread in acceptability the chip implant has already become throughout the world.

As you know, the Holy Bible warns people not to accept the "mark of the Beast" and it appears that the "Verichip" sure fits the description of what this world can expect in the near future.

BTW: Here are some excerpts from one of the articles with a perspective from the Holy Bible. Although the Food and Drug Administration has approved the implant, it has not really been tested long enough in humans to see if any side-effects could result.

Verichip
Night Club Owner’s Optimism:

“I know many people who want to be implanted," said Chase. "Almost everybody now has a piercing, tattoos or silicone. Why not get the chip and be original?"

In the wake of the Madrid train bombings that killed 190 people in March, Chase said VeriChip could also boost security by speeding up checks at airports, for example.
He denied the scheme had any drawbacks. The VeriChip is an in-house debit card and contains no personal information. It is made of glass so poses no health risk, Chase said."

Physician’s Concern about Verichip Implants:

"But Dr. Arun Patel, a general physician in Los Angeles, warned that placing an electronic device inside the body could be problematic.
"From a medical standpoint, obviously you worry about radiation with any electronic device," Patel said.
CNN.com - Technology gets under clubbers' skin - Jun 9, 2004

Bible Prophecy: Predicts resulting effects upon those who have received “the mark” :

And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. (Revelation 16:1-2)

And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds. (Revelation 16:10-11)

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Old 12-11-2007, 08:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes.
Marie has posted some informative links that indicate how widespread in acceptability the chip implant has already become throughout the world.

As you know, the Holy Bible warns people not to accept the "mark of the Beast" and it appears that the "Verichip" sure fits the description of what this world can expect in the near future.

BTW: Here are some excerpts from one of the articles with a perspective from the Holy Bible. Although the Food and Drug Administration has approved the implant, it has not really been tested long enough in humans to see if any side-effects could result.

Verichip
Night Club Owner’s Optimism:

“I know many people who want to be implanted," said Chase. "Almost everybody now has a piercing, tattoos or silicone. Why not get the chip and be original?"

In the wake of the Madrid train bombings that killed 190 people in March, Chase said VeriChip could also boost security by speeding up checks at airports, for example.
He denied the scheme had any drawbacks. The VeriChip is an in-house debit card and contains no personal information. It is made of glass so poses no health risk, Chase said."

Physician’s Concern about Verichip Implants:

"But Dr. Arun Patel, a general physician in Los Angeles, warned that placing an electronic device inside the body could be problematic.
"From a medical standpoint, obviously you worry about radiation with any electronic device," Patel said.
CNN.com - Technology gets under clubbers' skin - Jun 9, 2004

Bible Prophecy: Predicts resulting effects upon those who have received “the mark” :

And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. (Revelation 16:1-2)

And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds. (Revelation 16:10-11)
I don't dispute that the verichip could be the means fo the mark... and I certainly don't dispute the day is coming.

I just wanted to add on that day it happens, there will be no mistake as to why the person takes the mark nor will the person take the mark in ignorance... it will be a conscious, deliberate choice to identify with the beast (Satan) and be opposed to all God has said, done, and will do.

Today, people deliberately speak against Godly matters but they don't have to "wear" their words - at least not while alive. One day there will be no "closet" Christians... either one will identify with Christ and so be persecuted or one will identify with the beast and so be eternally condemned.

Today we can choose freely... at some point in history it literally will be a life and death choice. (Much like the Apostolic church of the first century - to identify with Christ at that time meant extreme persecution and most cases death or the threat of death.)
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:09 AM   #23 (permalink)
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sooooo

when does the ten horned beast rise from the sea oh great scholors and interpreters and prophets?
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sooooo

when does the ten horned beast rise from the sea oh great scholors and interpreters and prophets?
When God is ready for judgment to begin....

Man does not make this happen... God brings it about. As the Bible says, "Today is the day of Salvation as long as it is called Today."
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Man does not make this happen... God brings it about.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:18 AM   #26 (permalink)
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nice guy.
He is merciful to put up with your disrespect towards Him and continued patience towards you. But you don't see this...

Your sarcasim (sp?) could be applied to Jesus' own words in Luke 19: "I will judge you by your own words.... you knew did you that I was a hard man....
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nice guy.
its funny that the supposed mark that fortels the end of time keep changing.
Before it was a tattoo, then the social security number, then as marie says it was guessed to be a bar code, now it is the microchip.....

my point is that you have no clue, you are just trying to make todays circumstances meet the story you have in the bible. I believe that the story of the antichrist was written much more specifically about the current events and concerns of the writers, and they were predicting the eminent demise of their world. Since it hasn't happened you are all trying to adjust the meaning of the signs.
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Luke 19: "I will judge you by your own words.... you knew did you that I was a hard man....
they'd never let him in the Boy Scouts


HEYYYOOOOOOOO!
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:25 AM   #29 (permalink)
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its funny that the supposed mark that fortels the end of time keep changing.
Before it was a tattoo, then the social security number, then as marie says it was guessed to be a bar code, now it is the microchip.....

my point is that you have no clue, you are just trying to make todays circumstances meet the story you have in the bible. I believe that the story of the antichrist was written much more specifically about the current events and concerns of the writers, and they were predicting the eminent demise of their world. Since it hasn't happened you are all trying to adjust the meaning of the signs.
One who doesn't believe the Bible can say what "my point is" and "I believe that the story"....?

If it is not true, then no comment is needed because it would be fable or fiction and who cares what the writers thought - - it was delusional right?

It's easy to dismiss and disregard. Never easy to live by certitude.

By the way... your statement about how the mark keeps changing is actually a good one. As time keeps continuing, who knows what the mark will be? I don't believe it is anything we know specifically - other than that it will happen and be a choice of the person to accept or not accept and to know the consequences of the choice.
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they'd never let him in the Boy Scouts


HEYYYOOOOOOOO!
wrong again... I was there and in good standing as a younger kid.
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