the moral chicken and egg

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

so why does religion have to fit in?

It's the foundation, the principle behind the morality. The title of the morality is the moral when applied to experience, or a metaphorical story.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

It's the foundation, the principle behind the morality. The title of the morality is the moral when applied to experience, or a metaphorical story.

but experience does not mean religion.

you can experience things that make you a good or bad person (or make you want to do good or bad things) that have nothing to do with religion.

as many people have.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by fredcaudle

"morals do not come from religion"

So, religion came from man. I mean if man made morals he also made early laws and rules - isn't religion man's combination of both???? (I don't believe what is being siad, I'm just trying to follow what is being said here by a couple of the posts.)

I changed the highlighted section to show what i feel more accurately

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

There is a difference between religion and Christianity.

Religion is man made. Religion is a bunch of rules that man makes to try to get to a god or even to The God.

Christianity is God reaching down to man and providing the only path to Him free for the acceptance.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

There is a difference between religion and Christianity.

Well christianity is a religion ....

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

Religion is man made. Religion is a bunch of rules that man makes to try to get to a god or even to The God.

Rules like say commandments? Or perhaps rules written in some kind of book format detailing (poorly) what you need to do to get god in your life.

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

Christianity is God reaching down to man and providing the only path to Him free for the acceptance.

So is most any other religion .... it's all a matter of what you want to believe.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

There is a difference between religion and Christianity.

Religion is man made. Religion is a bunch of rules that man makes to try to get to a god or even to The God.

Christianity is God reaching down to man and providing the only path to Him free for the acceptance.

welll then you have a real problem considering christianity came from other religions, which you just pointed out are man made. therefore, christianity is man made..... you have just made a religion that says its comeing from god

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

Well christianity is a religion ....



Rules like say commandments? Or perhaps rules written in some kind of book format detailing (poorly) what you need to do to get god in your life.



So is most any other religion .... it's all a matter of what you want to believe.

Originally Posted by tommyjones

welll then you have a real problem considering christianity came from other religions, which you just pointed out are man made. therefore, christianity is man made..... you have just made a religion that says its comeing from god

You both have so little understanding. Sad.

[Xaquin44]

oh, hello .... You do know that debate and discussion both consist of more then 'you don't even know'?

right?

I mean if these are the means by which you educate other christians then I feel genuinely sorry for them.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

but experience does not mean religion.

you can experience things that make you a good or bad person (or make you want to do good or bad things) that have nothing to do with religion.

as many people have.

And you can experience things that teach you a lesson. And, when the lesson teaches morality - something founded in something other than tradition, custom, and law - it's called the moral of the experience.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by This_person

And you can experience things that teach you a lesson. And, when the lesson teaches morality - something founded in something other than tradition, custom, and law - it's called the moral of the experience.

but its not called the religion of the experience, or the moral of the religion.....