A message DIRECTLY from God!

[Starman3000m]

[quote=Marie;2557068]

Originally Posted by Kain99

To all of you (2A etc.) , who think you are out here on SOMD doing God's good work...LISTEN UP!

I just ran across this quote and think maybe this was the sediment K99 meant to express, anyway it was on a similar vain but perhaps better stated so I thought I would share. Of course theres an implication here that I am not willing to make!

"If we recieve and walk in him, we are the best arguments for the divine orgin and power of the scripture. Jesus sends us into the world as His whitnesses. We are to be His living Bibles; the resurrection-life of Christ is to be made manafest in us. If we assert that the Bible is the word of God and are not influenced by it as a divine, heavenly, glorious message of peace and love; if we do not rejoice in Gods salvation and walk in the newness of life; if we do not possess the faith which is the victory of overcomming in the world realizing the things that are not seen; and resting in the mercy and strenght of God; then we ourselves are arguments against the Bible. But if in scripture we have found Him and the spirit of love, and of power and of sound mind; if in scripture we have heard a loving voice,even the joyfull sound, and , rejoicing in the salvation of Christ we walk in the light of Gods countance then we ourselves are arguments for the Bible, even the Espistles of Christ, written not with ink, but with the spirit of the living God"
Adolf Saphir Distinguished Hebrew-Christian and Bible teacher

Yes, those who follow Yeshua should be living examples of a changed life and our actions be emplary of the born-again Children of God and walking in the fullness of being led by the Holy Spirit of God.

Unfortunately, we are still human, fallible and react in ways unbecoming of how Yeshua would want us to react all the time! That is why the secular world points the finger directly at professing Christians - not seeing us as still being human but as hypocrites.

I will be the first to admit that there are times when my reactions to a circumstance were out of line (like in traffic) and immediately I get convicted by the Holy Spirit for not letting things just go instead of being upset. Thank God, literally, that He does forgive us and He will give us strength to mature so that others will see the reflection of Christ in our lives instead of the reflection of the world. That is why The holy Bible admonishes followers to be led by the Spirit and not by the flesh:

Apostle Paul wrote about this in his letter to the Galatians:

Chapter 5, verses:
16: This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17: For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18: But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25: If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26: Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.

[Kain99]

I truly belive in my heart, that beating the heck out of people only leads them away from God.

The price paid for these crimes, will be greater than any Hell we can imagine.

Leading one sheep to God... does not justify leading 20 away.

Take your holier than thou behavior and just get the heck out of the way!

Your behavior will be viewed worse than murder.

I say these things with love, because I care about each and everyone of you.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Get out of the way???

And, pray tell, which "Jesus" is going to save the world?

Jesus of Mormonism: The "spirit brother of Satan" and a totally separate being from God, The Father.

You just can't help trying to spread the hate can you??

Thought Christians were about spreading peace, and love. not endlessly spewing HATE!

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Kain99

To all of you (2A etc.) , who think you are out here on SOMD doing God's good work...LISTEN UP!

You've got it all wrong! If you really care, about saving souls pay attention!

This will be your last warning.

There is a song you ALL need to hear.... Be Patient. There are talking points at the end of this song you need to have engraved in your brains.

YouTube - What This World Needs

I'm going to add the text for the lazy ones.


People aren’t confused by the gospel
They are confused by us.

Jesus is the only way to God but we are not the only way to Jesus.

This world doesn’t need my tie my hoodie
My denomination or my translation of the bible
They just need Jesus.

We can be passionate about what we believe
But we can’t strap ourselves to the gospel Because we’re slowing it down!!

Jesus is going to save the world.

The best thing we can do
Is just get out of the way!!

I think I'll take my instruction from the Bible and not from you or youtube.

Matthew 28:19-20

19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

20teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Kain99

I truly belive in my heart, that beating the heck out of people only leads them away from God.

The price paid for these crimes, will be greater than any Hell we can imagine.

Leading one sheep to God... does not justify leading 20 away.

Take your holier than thou behavior and just get the heck out of the way!

Your behavior will be viewed worse than murder.

I say these things with love, because I care about each and everyone of you.

Yo Kain99,

Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
(Galatians 4:16)

Hmmm...I am curious to understand why you would use the following as your tagline:

The world breaks everyone and afterward many are stronger at the broken places.

~Ernest Hemingway

Do you realize that the Truth of God does in-fact become offensive to those who are in disagreement? Thus, the Word of Truth breaks the spirit and afterwards many are saved because of the brokeness:

The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. (Psalm 51:17)

Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. (Proverbs 27:6)

I believe that some who deny the Deity of Christ and are "offended" in the way we respond to their criticism and ridicule will one day realize that our words were the "Faithful Wounds" of a friend - as they are definitely not the politically correct kisses of a deceitful enemy.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by itsbob

You just can't help trying to spread the hate can you??

Thought Christians were about spreading peace, and love. not endlessly spewing HATE!

Christians are about spreading Truth of who the real "Jesus" is. Therein lies the critical factor of Salvation. Mormonism does not believe in nor teach the same "Jesus" as in the New Testament.

Do you believe that Jesus is the "spirit brother of Satan" as the Mormons teach?

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Christians are about spreading Truth of who the real "Jesus" is. Therein lies the critical factor of Salvation. Mormonism does not believe in nor teach the same "Jesus" as in the New Testament.

Do you believe that Jesus is the "spirit brother of Satan" as the Mormons teach?

I'll give you a chance to rephrase your quesiton so as to prevent you from looking like a complete imbecile.



AND as a reminder.. don't CHRISTIANS believe we are all sons and daughters of God, so in fact we are all Christ's siblings, why many have the habit of calling each other 'Brother' and 'Sister'?

Did God not creat EVERYTHING?? The heavans, earth, us? Would Satan NOT be included in EVERYTHING??

You are just too ignorant to look beyond what you've been told and taught, and too filled with hate to open your eyes.


But that's alright, Mormons also believe before you are cast out that after you die you have ONE more chance for acceptance of the truth and belief in God.. Pretty compassionate God THEY have eh?

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by itsbob

I'll give you a chance to rephrase your quesiton so as to prevent you from looking like a complete imbecile.



AND as a reminder.. don't CHRISTIANS believe we are all sons and daughters of God, so in fact we are all Christ's siblings, why many have the habit of calling each other 'Brother' and 'Sister'?

Did God not creat EVERYTHING?? The heavans, earth, us? Would Satan NOT be included in EVERYTHING??

You are just too ignorant to look beyond what you've been told and taught, and too filled with hate to open your eyes.


But that's alright, Mormons also believe before you are cast out that after you die you have ONE more chance for acceptance of the truth and belief in God.. Pretty compassionate God THEY have eh?

Sorry, itsbob, but you do err from the Truth regarding the fundamental teachings of Yeshua.

Yes, of course the Holy Bible states that mankind is part of the Creation of God but remember that because of disobedience mankind has become separated from God. Regarding the human race we can all call ourselves "brothers and sisters" but in the spiritual sense we are either born-again of the spirit and reconciled with God or spiritually dead in our sin and continue being separated from God. That is your choice.

It is through human defiance against God from Adam and Eve's actions that mankind has become a child of this world that is influenced by Satan and not a partaker of God's Kingdom until there is a reconciliation through God's Plan of Salvation. Thus, the reason why The Holy Bible differentiates between two kinds of people on earth as mentioned in one of Jesus' parables:

"The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one.." (Matthew 13:38)

And in the New Testament writings of (1 John:1-11) the comparison continues to be made regarding the two kinds of people on earth:

1: Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2: Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5: And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10: In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
11: For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Sorry, itsbob, but you do err from the Truth regarding the fundamental teachings of Yeshua.

Yes, of course the Holy Bible states that mankind is part of the Creation of God but remember that because of disobedience mankind has become separated from God. Regarding the human race we can all call ourselves "brothers and sisters" but in the spiritual sense we are either born-again of the spirit and reconciled with God or spiritually dead in our sin and continue being separated from God. That is your choice.

It is through human defiance against God from Adam and Eve's actions that mankind has become a child of this world that is influenced by Satan and not a partaker of God's Kingdom until there is a reconciliation through God's Plan of Salvation. Thus, the reason why The Holy Bible differentiates between two kinds of people on earth as mentioned in one of Jesus' parables:

"The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one.." (Matthew 13:38)

And in the New Testament writings of (1 John:1-11) the comparison continues to be made regarding the two kinds of people on earth:

1: Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2: Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5: And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10: In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
11: For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

So your church interprets the New Testament different than the Mormons..

Just as you believe the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are one.. while most other Christian religions believe they are three different entities, spritits or beings.. it's a different interpretation. No more wrong or right then any ohter.

NO need to come and say they are WRONG because they believe differently than you or I do.. just different.. To say they are WRONG because they don't believe what I believe is a form of hate and bigotry.

And doing so is not love of your fellow man, or trying to save your fellow man, as history shows, difference's of opinon about religion are likely to cause death of many "different believers" even though they are Christians.. and then to say who are or aren't Christian, makes the vile words even more dangerous.

How many MILLIONS if not BILLIONS of people have died due to different beliefs.. or just different interpretations?? Kind of silly in the big picture isn't it??

[Pandora (Premo)]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

I think I'll take my instruction from the Bible and not from you or youtube.

Casting Crowns won a Grammy and Dove award this past year. They sold well over 130,000 copies of this CD the first week it went up for sale. I believe they are over 3 million now. They have the #1 CD on the Christian charts right now for the 104th week (if not longer). This group is good enough to hit on any chart, country, pop, yet they believe enough in their message to sing Christian music and you and I both know secular music doesn’t sell as well as all other categories of music. But, music reaches people, and Casting Crowns is reaching MANY people. I happen to think Casting Crowns is a blessing in a world that is in the end times when we see so much disgrace in the world around us.

Kain started this thread with a negative comment saying final warning; listen up, blah blah blah…. And frankly, that puts people’s asses on their backs thinking, who the hell does she think she is? She is saying everyone else’s way is wrong and no, it isn’t. Just this is another way to reach people and isn’t that what it really is all about? Only Casting Crowns has 3-4 minutes to convey that message. When I was 9 years old, my great grandmother sat me down and said, Jesus died for all of our sins so that we may have ever lasting life. I had been extremely ill prior to that and just knew I wasn't ever alone, but after that, there were times in my life I doubted and I found those were the times I was slowed down and really messed up.

We are all told to have faith like a child but as we get older, we do tend to question, pick apart, strap ourself to little words here and there that do slow us down, when all we need to know is that it is Jesus.

Maybe, Santa will slip you this CD and maybe even Lifesong in your stocking. This isn't one of my favorite songs, but all their CD's are really incredible.