Power of Prayer

[Xaquin44]

Something said in another topic really pissed me off.

Rather then sully that one, I decided to make a new one.

Power of Prayer ....

this was given as the reason for a woman coming out of a coma. Now I appreciate that good thoughts were directed to this woman and indeed, I myself wished her well (though not in text), however, what of Ivory Watts who received as much (if not more) prayer and good thoughts?

Why is it, that the power of prayer dictated this womans survival and not compotent doctors?

Better yet, why was the power of prayer ineffective in healing another such as Ivory Watts.

I'll probably garner a load of red for this thread, but it sort of makes me upset that some people will sit on high and dictate that prayer heals some, but for others it's 'just time'.

It's speaking for god when you tell people things like that and I've always been instructed that good christians don't do that.

anyways, sorry for my rant.

I sincerely hope that both parties will be fine and wish them and their families and friends strength to get through the tough times.

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

I'll probably garner a load of red for this thread, but it sort of makes me upset that some people will sit on high and dictate that prayer heals some, but for others it's 'just time'.

Why does it bother you?


Seriously - if you think someone is full of baloney then why do you even care what they think, since it is - by definition - baloney?

I think you simply need to unclench.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Toxick

Why does it bother you?


Seriously - if you think someone is full of baloney then why do you even care what they think, since it is - by definition - baloney?

I think you simply need to unclench.

you might be right.

guess I've been sensitive since I've been told the 'It was his time' line a couple times.

Like you know. (not you Toxick the you who said it)

and I've also been told that god has healed before .... though I'm pretty sure it was the doctors we paid.

[wxtornado]

That's a good post X, you bring up some interesting points. Here are my thoughts:

The efficacy of prayer, collective or otherwise, has shown no significant impact on people recovering from illnesses (or being granted special dispensations of any kind). In fact, there is no way to even conduct an accurate study of such claims.

Positive thinking is not indicative of the intercession of a divine being, of which there is no evidence. However, a positive outlook can contribute to one's overall health, and even assist the body in fighting off disease, as well as contribute to helping one deal with life's decisions, problems, challenges, etc.

Again, there's no real way to even measure any of this, but I believe prayer only benefits the person doing the praying.

[Toxick]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

and I've also been told that god has healed before .... though I'm pretty sure it was the doctors we paid.

I have prayed, and I will continue to do so - however, when I pray it is rarely to ask for favors, mainly because I've never seen any evidence one way or the other that God actually intervenes on anyone's behalf due to the power of prayer. Especially when it comes to things like sickness, or injury.


Having said that, I can't fault people who believe in the power of prayer, and it certainly doesn't piss me off or upset me.

[FemmePrincess]

I believe prayer helps the person doing the praying to come
to terms with whatever they are dealing with. I think sometimes
people just need a reason to understand. Good or bad. If they
believe their prayers helped then they, themself have done something
to help.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by FemmePrincess

I believe prayer helps the person doing the praying to come
to terms with whatever they are dealing with. I think sometimes
people just need a reason to understand. Good or bad. If they
believe their prayers helped then they, themself have done something
to help.

...on.

[wxtornado]

Originally Posted by FemmePrincess

I believe prayer helps the person doing the praying to come
to terms with whatever they are dealing with. I think sometimes
people just need a reason to understand. Good or bad. If they
believe their prayers helped then they, themself have done something
to help.

No doubt - if it makes ya feel good, why not?

[PJumper]

Originally Posted by wxtornado

That's a good post X, you bring up some interesting points. Here are my thoughts:

The efficacy of prayer, collective or otherwise, has shown no significant impact on people recovering from illnesses (or being granted special dispensations of any kind). In fact, there is no way to even conduct an accurate study of such claims.

Positive thinking is not indicative of the intercession of a divine being, of which there is no evidence. However, a positive outlook can contribute to one's overall health, and even assist the body in fighting off disease, as well as contribute to helping one deal with life's decisions, problems, challenges, etc.

Again, there's no real way to even measure any of this, but I believe prayer only benefits the person doing the praying.

Prayers do work! There has been a lot of times that my prayers were answered. Some people would say that it's a coincidence, but I guess, you have to have faith to be a believer. Not all the things we ask from God are answered because there's always a good reason for it. People always question God's wisdom when children dies, especially of horrible deaths, but believe in him that it's for a purpose.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by PJumper

People always question God's wisdom when children dies, especially of horrible deaths, but believe in him that it's for a purpose.

such as?