Osteen as heretic?

[craberta]

As a person who has not read the bible yet, (but I fully intend to and very soon) It seems to me personally that all i ever here is negative, blah blah...your going to hell if you don't beleive or whatever. To hear something possitive for once is refreshing to me, and those thousands of people who go to that church, and watch his shows. I would much rather watch VH1, Or my soaps, and I do, but when he is on, I listen, and I find myself feeling good about God, faith, and it softens my heart too! instead of feeling fear, and wanting to avoid, I want to know more, the good and the bad. O know I am probably not going to heaven, but as long as I am here right now, pretending that God loves me, I am special well, it made me very generouse and unselfish and unafraid this Christmas, and for the first time in years, I unpacked my nativity scene and put it by the front door.

[Kain99]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

Nope. Not now, but ... Root of Jesse is Jesus by the way.

Jesus spoke of the tribulation and the lake of fire. The gospel is the whole gospel, not just the nice parts.

What is your goal here? Do you not understand, who you are dealing with? Obviously, you were born by fire - but trust me, most won't be.

[Kain99]

Again 2A, You will be held accountable for the lost. Ease up, brotha man!

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by craberta

As a person who has not read the bible yet, (but I fully intend to and very soon) It seems to me personally that all i ever here is negative, blah blah...your going to hell if you don't beleive or whatever. To hear something possitive for once is refreshing to me, and those thousands of people who go to that church, and watch his shows. I would much rather watch VH1, Or my soaps, and I do, but when he is on, I listen, and I find myself feeling good about God, faith, and it softens my heart too! instead of feeling fear, and wanting to avoid, I want to know more, the good and the bad. O know I am probably not going to heaven, but as long as I am here right now, pretending that God loves me, I am special well, it made me very generouse and unselfish and unafraid this Christmas, and for the first time in years, I unpacked my nativity scene and put it by the front door.

I'm glad. God does love you; you do not have to pretend. And as you seek Him, you will find Him. Why do you think you will not go to heaven? The thief on the cross did. All the angels in heaven rejoice when someone finds the open loving arms of the Father.

[Kain99]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

I'm glad. God does love you; you do not have to pretend. And as you seek Him, you will find Him. Why do you think you will not go to heaven? The thief on the cross did. All the angles in heaven rejoice when someone finds the open loving arms of the Father.

She thinks that because of people like you 2A.....

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Kain99

What is your goal here? Do you not understand, who you are dealing with? Obviously, you were born by fire - but trust me, most won't be.

My goal was to show you that with God, all things are possible and as Isaiah said, "the wolf will dwell with the lamb,
And the leopard will lie down with the young goat,
And the calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little boy will lead them.
Also the cow and the bear will graze,
Their young will lie down together,
And the lion will eat straw like the ox.
The nursing child will play by the hole of the cobra,
And the weaned child will put his hand on the viper's den."

The gospel is the gospel. Jesus taught of heaven and the lake of fire. Mostly, I speak of the love of God, but I will not shy away from the tribulation and the punishment. To do so is to proclaim half truth which is not truth at all.

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Kain99

She thinks that because of people like you 2A.....

I think she can post for herself.

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Kain99

Again 2A, You will be held accountable for the lost. Ease up, brotha man!

Yeah. That is why I will not water down the gospel because of your protests. The gospel is the gospel. It is the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I didn't make the lake of fire up. The lake of fire should be absolutely no cause for fear for those that love God.

[craberta]

I'm just covering myself, just incase I don't get in, no one can say I was asuming wrongly, I just don't think I am worthy yet. I know when I die what others think of me won't matter, but since I am in the human condition, I tend to think of death as I do life, in this body with this personality. I am just trying to be positive, and that way the scary posibilities won't bring me down. I am very much bothered by the focus on Gods anger, and punishment and hell....alot of people like that, scaring others, "don't be too happy, cause you are gonna get it", That sort of thing. My mother inlaw is like that, a real Debbie downer. I can't help it, I have decided to think that God loves me, I am special, and my chances are pretty good!

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by craberta

I'm just covering myself, just incase I don't get in, no one can say I was asuming wrongly, I just don't think I am worthy yet. I know when I die what others think of me won't matter, but since I am in the human condition, I tend to think of death as I do life, in this body with this personality. I am just trying to be positive, and that way the scary posibilities won't bring me down. I am very much bothered by the focus on Gods anger, and punishment and hell....alot of people like that, scaring others, "don't be too happy, cause you are gonna get it", That sort of thing. My mother inlaw is like that, a real Debbie downer. I can't help it, I have decided to think that God loves me, I am special, and my chances are pretty good!

God loves YOU! You are His. He created you. God does not create junk.

As to being worthy, no one is, not me, not Italian Stallion, not Starman3000, not anyone.

Romans 3:21-28

21But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,

22even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

24being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;

25whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

26for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

27Where then is boasting? It is excluded By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith.

28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Salvation is a gift from God because He wants you to love Him and be His child.

Believe in your heart of hearts in Jesus as your Savior. Make Him your Lord. Live your life in love of God and what He has done for you. Do not be afraid to tell others that you love Jesus and He loves you. You will not be disappointed.