What kind of god would send

[wxtornado]

Originally Posted by toppick08

Why ain't you out saving your world being there is nothing more than yourself to be worried about? If your just worm dirt, whatcha got to lose?
Your wasting time.......get busy....................

I've never claimed to want to "save the world".

[wxtornado]

Originally Posted by This_person

I think there is a great deal of evidence Jesus lived (then died, then lived again for that matter).

For instance?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by wxtornado

For instance?

Well, there's the several books bound together as a Bible. Letters, hundreds of millions of people over time who've followed his words over time, corroboration of disputing religions as to his life (with disagreement as to the meaning of his life), etc.

[wxtornado]

Originally Posted by This_person

Well, there's the several books bound together as a Bible. Letters, hundreds of millions of people over time who've followed his words over time, corroboration of disputing religions as to his life (with disagreement as to the meaning of his life), etc.

Again, you seem to think the provenance of the bible is impeccable. I come from the school that it was obviously re-written, books were discarded, and it has gone through generation after generation, translation after translation. We have no originals to know what was "originally" written, but even that wouldn't serve as proof. We do know, for instance, what was originally written by the Egyptians about Amon-Ra and Isis and Osiris. Do any of those stories carved on the pyramids mean the stories are true and not myths?

The messiah story is a mythological model told many times. The "Jesus" story exists in numerous, previous versions. One can see the similarities in the tales of Hercules.

You're just assuming that it's in the bible, therefore there were apostles and disciples who wrote it all, and it's all accurate and we all should believe it based on this criteria.

There are far more reasonable scenarios than the one put forth in the bible. It would include messianic beliefs sytems, the oppression of the state, the history of the people, the existence of revolutionaries (even peaceful ones: Jesus could easily have been the Martin Luther King or Ghandhi of his time), the building of a religious movement, etc.

The dearth of corrboration serves to further support the view that all of this is myth-building. And there's absoluely nothing wrong with myth-building, providing it's understood to be mythical. Go watch "ET" some day and note the remarkable archetypical similarities between it and the classic messianic story. It's certianly inspiring.

But, that doesn't make it true.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

Well, there's the several books bound together as a Bible. Letters, hundreds of millions of people over time who've followed his words over time, corroboration of disputing religions as to his life (with disagreement as to the meaning of his life), etc.

ahahhaa

I should write a book called "I'm god: worship ahoy!" .... I mean, apparently if I write it, it is so.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by wxtornado

We have no originals to know what was "originally" written, but even that wouldn't serve as proof.

What would serve as proof for you?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

ahahhaa

I should write a book called "I'm god: worship ahoy!" .... I mean, apparently if I write it, it is so.

You die, come back to life, and have multitudes witness this and follow you for millenia, and we'll see how it words for you!

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

You die, come back to life, and have multitudes witness this and follow you for millenia, and we'll see how it words for you!

I will .... In fact, I already did. I wrote it down just now.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

I will .... In fact, I already did. I wrote it down just now.

I'll repeat my question to wxtornado to you: what would serve as proof to you?

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by This_person

I'll repeat my question to wxtornado to you: what would serve as proof to you?

Having him come down from up on high and fix some things would be a nice start.

Seriously, if I had the power of god, I would.