Joel Osteen on Mormonism

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

This is not directed at you Starman but some of you who don't know the Bible need to stop making these assertions. A Mormon is not a Christian any more than a Jew is who doesn't acknowledge Jesus Christ. Jesus lashed out at the "unbelieving Jews" in John 8 and many other passages because they refused to believe in Him as the Messiah. The Jews believed in the God of the OT but, when He was further explained or revealed to them, they refused to believe in Him. This is what Paul calls a "different Jesus" (2 Corinthians 11 v 3-15) and anyone who believes in different Jesus is not a Christian! Paul said this "different Jesus" is "satan masquerading as an angel of light" trying to deceive you. I can say Jesus is my refrigerator and worship it but it will not get me to Heaven. The things that you must believe in to be truly saved are these:
1) Jesus is God who became a man and came to earth.
2) Jesus is Jehovah God and the second person in the Godhead. (Along with The Father & Holy Spirit also being Jehovah and the 1st & 3rd persons respectively).
3) Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary.
4) Jesus was killed on a cross because a sinless blood sacrifice was needed to pay the price for our sins so that, when we accept Him into our lives, we can enter Heaven when we die.
5) Jesus, 3 days later, brought Himself back from the dead to prove He is God and has power over life & death.
Now, with those statements in mind, compare what Moromnism says about who Jesus is and YOU decide. Otherwise, stop talking about what you know little of. He is NOT satan's brother and He was not first a man then became a god. Call me what you want but these are His rules, not mine. Many of you are going to follow a different Jesus and miss out on Heaven. When you do, you can't say I didn't tell you so.

Bigot!

[toppick08 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Bigot!

Well, at least I'm not alone...

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by dboz

you preach about how mormons are not christians and you talk to others like no one else knows what they are saying or belive in. Your beginning of the paragrah should not have read those that dont know the bible it should have read those that dont know about other religions should not make assertations. From my point of view it is you that seems to need some education on the true beliefs of Mormonism. Fact find before you preach!!

You said "I talk to others like no one else knows what they are saying". I go by what they say versus what the Bible says. It's easy. Now, tell me what is wrong with my statements "from your point of view".

Originally Posted by itsbob

Bigot!

Thanks you Bob. Coming from you that's quite a compliment because Jesus must be one too.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

You said "I talk to others like no one else knows what they are saying". I go by what they say versus what the Bible says. It's easy. Now, tell me what is wrong with my statements "from your point of view".

Thanks you Bob. Coming from you that's quite a compliment because Jesus must be one too.

Anyone that can state their disdain for another person for their beliefs.. yep.. BIGOT.. But remember, Jesus was a "Jew"... so you must have a lot of disdain for him too..

[Xaquin44]

oh, cool

a christian fight

hey, my jesus is better then yours and also, my interpretation of the bible is more correct then is yours.

am I doing it right?

should I have quoted something?

[Pandora (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

oh, cool

a christian fight

hey, my jesus is better then yours and also, my interpretation of the bible is more correct then is yours.

am I doing it right?

should I have quoted something?

Amazing isn't it.

The Bible states the Jews were purposely blinded by God (blinded to not see Jesus for what he is). Those blinders will come in the end. They will eventually see.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

oh, cool
a christian fight
hey, my jesus is better then yours and also, my interpretation of the bible is more correct then is yours.
am I doing it right?
should I have quoted something?

Hey Xaquin, did you hear how much rain is falling in Atlanta? What kind of excuse do you have for all the Congressman's prayers now? Never mind, it's off topic anyway...

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Anyone that can state their disdain for another person for their beliefs.. yep.. BIGOT.. But remember, Jesus was a "Jew"... so you must have a lot of disdain for him too..

Again, you shouldn't speak of what you don't know Bob. Jesus WAS a Jew. Did that mean He didn't believe in Himself as Messiah like the other Jews did? DUH. Read on my friend. The Bible is a big book.

Originally Posted by Pandora

Amazing isn't it. The Bible states the Jews were purposely blinded by God (blinded to not see Jesus for what he is). Those blinders will come in the end. They will eventually see.

WHAT???? The Bible states that God can blind anyone He chooses because He knows they aren't going to be saved NO MATTER WHAT, so what's the point here?
And yes, many people (Jews and people from other belief systems) will be saved near the end of time but not EVERY Jew "will eventually see". Many will be lost for their unbelief in Christ as Messiah.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Hey Xaquin, did you hear how much rain is falling in Atlanta? What kind of excuse do you have for all the Congressman's prayers now? Never mind, it's off topic anyway...

how many weeks after the fact lol

or when it first rained and they first prayed it was in the forecast anyway lol

hey guess what!

I'm praying that the sun comes up





OH MY GOD IT DID!

MY PRAYER DID THAT!



you seem to honestly be saying his power of prayer granted him something that was coming anyway, which is pathetic.

[2ndAmendment (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

oh, cool

a christian fight

hey, my jesus is better then yours and also, my interpretation of the bible is more correct then is yours.

am I doing it right?

should I have quoted something?

isbob is not a Christian. He is one of yours.