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Old 01-29-2008, 10:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old Testament and New Testament

I've heard people say that both are valid. I've also heard people say that the New Testament replaces the Old Testament.

Can somebody tell me what the view of the catholic church is on the relationship between the two?
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I've heard people say that both are valid. I've also heard people say that the New Testament replaces the Old Testament.

Can somebody tell me what the view of the catholic church is on the relationship between the two?
The OT is a preparation or progressive revelation of God which reaches its fulfillment in the person of Jesus Christ. There is no NT without the OT, they go hand in hand.

Catechism of the Catholic Church - PART 1 SECTION 1 CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 2
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The OT is a preparation or progressive revelation of God which reaches its fulfillment in the person of Jesus Christ. There is no NT without the OT, they go hand in hand.

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So the lessons/rules from both are considered binding by the church?
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So the lessons/rules from both are considered binding by the church?
Luggy, just what is it that you have you done?
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I'll do the best I can to relay how it was explained by the "Teaching" Pastors I've had the privilege to listen to:

The Old Testament describes the early relationship between God and man - man's creation, his fall from grace (Adam & Eve) and the subsequent struggles man experienced as a result. Throughout the Old Testament man tries to atone for their sins through sacrifices in the temples built to God. Per custom, the common man was not allowed to perform the sacrifices (of a lamb) much less even enter into the temples, so intermediaries were chosen (priests, etc) to perform the services. There was one area of the temple in which the Arc of the Covenant was kept behind a curtain and only the holiest/highest priests could enter.
The New Testament describes man’s new relationship with God. As a result of Jesus (called the Lamb of God) dying /atoning for the sins of man, temple sacrifices were no longer required. The tearing of the temple curtain at the moment of Christ’s death signified that man no longer needed an intermediary in order to have a relationship with God the Father.

This is a really simplistit version. I found the whole explanation of the Old & New Testaments absolutely fascinating.
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What do I know..??.....I'm just a Methodist.....:big smile:
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Luggy, just what is it that you have you done?
Just curious. Seems like I'm getting caught in religious discussions a lot lately. I find the topic interesting but I don't know enough about it.

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What do I know..??.....I'm just a Methodist.....:big smile:
I wont hold it against ya. I asked about the catholic church because to my knowledge, they are the largest christian church. Am I wrong in thinking that?
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So the lessons/rules from both are considered binding by the church?
Lessons? Yes. Rules? It depends; moral rules (10 commandments) are binding whereas legislative rules such as found in Leviticus are not.

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The OT is a preparation or progressive revelation of God which reaches its fulfillment in the person of Jesus Christ. There is no NT without the OT, they go hand in hand.

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The OT discusses God and his revelation and the NT is about Jesus, who he is in relationship to God, and what he offers.
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I'll do the best I can to relay how it was explained by the "Teaching" Pastors I've had the privilege to listen to:

The Old Testament describes the early relationship between God and man - man's creation, his fall from grace (Adam & Eve) and the subsequent struggles man experienced as a result. Throughout the Old Testament man tries to atone for their sins through sacrifices in the temples built to God. Per custom, the common man was not allowed to perform the sacrifices (of a lamb) much less even enter into the temples, so intermediaries were chosen (priests, etc) to perform the services. There was one area of the temple in which the Arc of the Covenant was kept behind a curtain and only the holiest/highest priests could enter.
The New Testament describes man’s new relationship with God. As a result of Jesus (called the Lamb of God) dying /atoning for the sins of man, temple sacrifices were no longer required. The tearing of the temple curtain at the moment of Christ’s death signified that man no longer needed an intermediary in order to have a relationship with God the Father.

This is a really simplistit version. I found the whole explanation of the Old & New Testaments absolutely fascinating.

Great explanation.
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