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Old 03-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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...that's right. I mean, Jeremiah Wright and Barrack Obama/Grand dragons and the Ku Klux Klan. Hell, it's all the same...
All sin, discord, actions, good or bad start with thought. A thought put into words is looking for approval. With enough approval, the thought that became words becomes action.

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19"For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders.

20"These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man."
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:36 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info. I searched the NYT and found this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/us...yt&oref=slogin
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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“I have not discussed this with Senator Obama in detail, but I can see why callers of mine and other clergymen would be concerned, because the issue is standing by your own pastor,” Mr. Sharpton said.


Dayem I actually agree with Al Sharpton.........now that is SCARY!!!!!!
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:47 PM   #34 (permalink)
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"Mr. Wright’s church, the 8,000-member Trinity United Church of Christ, is considered mainstream — Oprah Winfrey has attended services, and many members are prominent black professionals. But the church is also more Afrocentric and politically active than standard black congregations."

Read "standard black congregations" as, the ones that know their place and don't scare the whiteys.
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Old 03-18-2008, 06:49 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I wonder why Hillary's people didn't blow this one open? Since they are the dirt digging masters and all. Or did they in a round about way?
I think this has the Clinton "machine" all over it. Hannity has been on this story for a year and the mainstream media kept overlooking it.
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:14 AM   #36 (permalink)
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the NYT article;

"Mr. Wright’s church, the 8,000-member Trinity United Church of Christ, is considered mainstream — Oprah Winfrey has attended services, and many members are prominent black professionals. But the church is also more Afrocentric and politically active than standard black congregations."

Read "standard black congregations" as, the ones that know their place and don't scare the whiteys.
Actually, since most black people aren't racist, I think it means "people who go to church for religious, not social/political reasons, where the congregation happens to be primarily black".
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:15 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Do you have a link that backs that up? It'd be interseting to see it.
...running out of time to post this morning, but I have this article from April 2007. You probably have to register, it's the NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us...WzL0UGRqtzqbdg


"...Despite the canceled invocation, Mr. Wright prayed with the Obama family just before his presidential announcement. Asked later about the incident, the Obama campaign said in a statement, “Senator Obama is proud of his pastor and his church.”
In March, Mr. Wright said in an interview that his family and some close associates were angry about the canceled address, for which they blamed Obama campaign advisers but that the situation was “not irreparable,” adding, “Several things need to happen to fix it.”

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:44 AM   #38 (permalink)
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So Paster Wright,...

Why does Obama have to put distance between you and him?
He's a loyal confidant, one of your devoted flock...?

Are you afraid your rhetoric will embarrass him?
Do you wish to apologize for your tirades?
Are there other incidents that you are hoping don't make the media?
Do you feel that Mr Obama follows your teaching or is he embarrassed regarding it?

Time for the 60 minutes interview.
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:51 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Read "standard black congregations" as, the ones that know their place and don't scare the whiteys.
Once more, if this were a "caucasion-centric" church that delivered this same message, the media would howl and the candidate would be finished. The "black leadership" says they don't want a double standard, but that doesn't really seem to be the case, now does it?

It's amazing to me just how far Democrats will go in their hypocrisy.
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:56 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Read "standard black congregations" as, the ones that don't say "God damn America."
Now you get it.
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