Obama's Rejection Of Pastor Unfortunate

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Now you get it.

...remember who said it, but last night on, I think, CNN, a black commentator said that these type remarks, Wright remarks, are not unusual at all in many/most black churches and that is part of what Obama is going to touch on today, the perceptions of blacks vis a vis America.

[MMDad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...remember who said it, but last night on, I think, CNN, a black commentator said that these type remarks, Wright remarks, are not unusual at all in many/most black churches and that is part of what Obama is going to touch on today, the perceptions of blacks vis a vis America.

"God Damn America" is not unusual? Wow.

If these remarks are not unusual, why does Obama feel a need to distance himself from the remarks?

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

that is part of what Obama is going to touch on today, the perceptions of blacks vis a vis America.

Can't wait.

I'm getting a real education on what black people really think, courtesy of Senator Obama and his pastor. Here all this time I thought the only difference was skin color, and black people were just Americans like me.

Who knew that the biggest racial divider would be a black Democrat presidential candidate?

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by nhboy

the NYT article;

"Mr. Wright’s church, the 8,000-member Trinity United Church of Christ, is considered mainstream — Oprah Winfrey has attended services, and many members are prominent black professionals. But the church is also more Afrocentric and politically active than standard black congregations."

Read "standard black congregations" as, the ones that don't have a theme of "God Damn America, think AIDS and Crack were created by whitey to keep the black man in check, those that believe they are Americans who go to church for spiritual teaching of Jesus and the bible and not to see some radical freak militant froth at the mouth about politics.

:fixed:

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

"God Damn America" is not unusual? Wow.

If these remarks are not unusual, why does Obama feel a need to distance himself from the remarks?

...I'm the only one around here who gets out much. Is this business really a shock to many people???

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...remember who said it, but last night on, I think, CNN, a black commentator said that these type remarks, Wright remarks, are not unusual at all in many/most black churches and that is part of what Obama is going to touch on today, the perceptions of blacks vis a vis America.

Ahhhhhhhh, the "normalize" tactic. Make people think the outrageous is actually commonplace so it is nothing to worry about. Usually goo to name drop some celebs like "Oprah went to this church once " to make the pill go down easier

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...I'm the only one around here who gets out much. Is this business really a shock to many people???

I'm shocked. I don't know how many black churches you've been to, but I always assumed folks were there for religion, not hate America politics.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Can't wait.

I'm getting a real education on what black people really think, courtesy of Senator Obama and his pastor. Here all this time I thought the only difference was skin color, and black people were just Americans like me.

Who knew that the biggest racial divider would be a black Democrat presidential candidate?

...you think white people are Americans 'just like you'? How many people do you think are really 'just like you'? You are a social liberal/fiscal conservative, right? A good many Republicans don't see things like you do. A good many Democrats don't see things just like you. I think you could sit down with Condi Rice and see an awful lot of things in common. I think you could sit down with Janet Reno and feel like you are talking to a space alien.

Wrights (Obama's) church is a big city church; they're gonna have views right in line with much of Democrat party orthodoxy; grievance politics, group politics, etc.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Pete

Make people think the outrageous is actually commonplace so it is nothing to worry about.

Maybe it is commonplace. Barack Obama is going to give us the scoop today.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I'm shocked. I don't know how many black churches you've been to, but I always assumed folks were there for religion, not hate America politics.

...been to any black churches. Pastor Wright is no shock to me. The ideas and search for blame of the Democratic party is no shock to me yet I've never been to a Democratic party meeting.