A Question For My Evolutionist Friends

[Marie]

Ok I need some help with this.
We get the first animal that evolved that has the capability of reproduction. What did it reproduce with?

[tirdun]

The earliest life would have been single celled creatures that reproduced asexually.

The first sexual reproduction would have been spats, seeding or budding, very similar to tubes, sponges and coral or primitive plants. Budding works asexually or sexually, unfertilized buds would be near twins of the "mother", fertilized would be genetic combinations. Spats are mass reproduction, grouped organisms share genetic material and create new grouped organisms. Seeding allows a creature to send and receive genetic material, again to work sexually or asexually. Sexual transfer creates greater diversity, asexual reproduction continues the species.

There is very little specialized sexual evolution in these types of animals and the specialization is very low-energy. Most of the work is randomized, done by water motion and the fact that the creatures live in large clusters.

[MMDad (Premo)]

Why is a thread about evolution in the Religion forum? There couldn't be an agenda here, could there?

Anyway, Tirdun is correct. There is still asexual reproduction in modern animals.

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Marie

What did it reproduce with?

The same could be asked of Adam and Eve's kids

[This_person]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Why is a thread about evolution in the Religion forum? There couldn't be an agenda here, could there?

Maybe because there are more vocal non-religious people here than religious people here?

Or, because evolution requires faith just like religion, it could be considered a religion?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by aps45819

The same could be asked of Adam and Eve's kids

See many of the other threads currently on here. That question is being answered in many different ways (just like the topic of this one).

Short - we don't really know, but we have good guesses.

Longer - well, maybe this, maybe that, who knows and who cares.


The answer given above answers how asexual reproduction could occur. The question being asked is how did single cell division reproduction turn into sexual reproduction. At some point, there had to become a male and female of an living thing. In a mutation/evolution environment, when the first male (or female) came to be, who did that mutated sexual creature reproduce with to survive that species?

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by aps45819

The same could be asked of Adam and Eve's kids

I think when you reach the age of 575 you can reproduce with your brothers and sisters with no ill effects.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

See many of the other threads currently on here. That question is being answered in many different ways (just like the topic of this one).

Short - we don't really know, but we have good guesses.

Longer - well, maybe this, maybe that, who knows and who cares.


The answer given above answers how asexual reproduction could occur. The question being asked is how did single cell division reproduction turn into sexual reproduction. At some point, there had to become a male and female of an living thing. In a mutation/evolution environment, when the first male (or female) came to be, who did that mutated sexual creature reproduce with to survive that species?

How do we (EVERYday) go from a single cell, to a being that lives and breathes and can reproduce?


I would think that once the species started evolving and producing 'mutants' that could reproduce, as time went on the mutation/ evolution become more prevelant, until a point in time, the only new generations were generations that could reproduce. BUT I think we need to differntiate mutation from evolution.. Evolution is all encompassing, while mutation maybe around forever, it doesn't effect an entire species (albino squirrels for example)

[This_person]

Originally Posted by itsbob

How do we (EVERYday) go from a single cell, to a being that lives and breathes and can reproduce?

Well, we need another of the species, the opposite sex, to do that. We can't do it alone (see, that's the basic premise of Marie's question).

I would think that once the species started evolving and producing 'mutants' that could reproduce, as time went on the mutation/ evolution become more prevelant, until a point in time, the only new generations were generations that could reproduce. BUT I think we need to differntiate mutation from evolution.. Evolution is all encompassing, while mutation maybe around forever, it doesn't effect an entire species (albino squirrels for example)

Evolution is predicated on mutations. Unless, you think there's some mechanism that says "hey, this species needs a third arm" and miraculously (pun intended for humor purposes only) the species begins to form a third arm. No, the theory is predicated on mutations "improving" the survivability of the species, and these mutated/bettered individuals survive more strongly than their unmutated predecessors.

Evolution and mutations go hand in glove.

[MMDad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

The answer given above answers how asexual reproduction could occur. The question being asked is how did single cell division reproduction turn into sexual reproduction. At some point, there had to become a male and female of an living thing. In a mutation/evolution environment, when the first male (or female) came to be, who did that mutated sexual creature reproduce with to survive that species?

These are basic biology questions. If you're really interested, take a class.

This thread wasn't started because anyone has a genuine interest in biology. Your questions aren't based on a genuine interest in how reproduction involved. If the questions were genuine, you'd do the research yourself rather than trying to start an argument in the Religion forum.

Marie started this thread to start an argument, most likely because she had read something on another site about how to shut down her "evolutionist friends." It appears that Tirdun's response immediately shut her down instead, or she would have replied by now. She's probably researching now and will pop up with an "I gotcha" to stump the "evolutionists."